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The actual title of the organization is "Scouting for All" with a lower-case F.
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Much of the biographic information relating to the founders is not related to this article. If any of them are notable, they should have their own article. Information on the founders should be restricted to that which is relevant to the founding of the organization. --
NThurston17:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I'm going to start expanding this a bit in my
sandbox, but anyone wishing to is more than welcome to help out. There's plenty of material out there just from a quick google search. I'll probably move it to the main article here once I can get an "activities" section made that is actually readable and whatnot.
Unforgiven24Talk|Contribs17:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)reply
I suspect he is referring to the BSA, which is not a religious organization, but does require the members have some sort of faith, but does not mandate any particular faith. ---—
Gadget850 (Ed)talk14:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC)reply
There is a global umbrella body for Scouting called World Organization of the Scout Movement (WOSM). It accepts membership from only one Scouting body for each country. For the USA that member is Boy Scouts of America. "If someone has a problem with their prerequisites", it's not that easy for them to "just start their own scouting group" and be recognised at a global level.
Scouts in Australia make a promise to "do my duty to my god". That is open to the interpretation that if one does not have a god, there is no duty to be done. Buddhists are not required to believe in a god, but are welcome in Scouting.
HiLo48 (
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03:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)reply
I have heard it argued that the Buddhists in the US who are Scouts come from Japanese Buddhist traditions who do believe in God. From those discussions it was clear that the BSA has really not addressed the issue of Buddhist groups who really do not believe in a God. --
Bduke(Discussion)04:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Exactly. Thanks for the information. It means that BSA Buddhists are rather different from the Buddhist Scouts that one meets internationally, such as the ones from Thailand. The harder Buddhist line that belief in a God in not required, is not evident. The Buddha himself said something along the lines of belief in God was a crutch for those who need it, but it was better without it. From B-P on to the WOSM, the religious policy has been a fudge, developed by people who do not really understand what the various religions of the world are all about, thinking for example that Buddha is a god. It is no wonder we have difficult writing about it on wikipedia. --
Bduke(Discussion)20:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Two separate organizations. I don't see any evidence that SfA is a successor to CIS. The only evidence that the CIS ever had any impact was in the Inclusive Scouting Award which is the bulk of the article. The award was then offered by ScoutPride which seems defunct and is now offered by SfA as the Scouting for All Rainbow Knot.
[4] SfA has not updated their web since since November 2008, so I'm not even sure of their status. My recommendation:
Merge the award to SfA
Merge any pertinent bits of CIS to Scouting in the United States
This is correct -- SfA and CIS were separate organizations with different approaches to the issue. SfA tended to focus more on protests, and CIS more on helping people still active in the Boy Scouts of America to help change the policies. There were a few unsuccessful efforts to merger around 2002 and 2003.
The Inclusive Scouting Award was originally modeled after "safe space" programs used in high schools to help students identify supportive teachers whom they could approach without fear. See
http://www.inclusivescouting.net/isa/ The two rope colors were based on religious colors and sexual orientation colors -- there is not a red, white, and blue component specifically referring to the Eagle Scout colors. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Mmnoel (
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21:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Since there seem to be no objections from active watchers, can someone more expert than I describe the nuts and bolts of the sequence on how to do this. Is it?:
Write award info into SFA (or confirm that it's in). Write any pertinent bits of CIS to Scouting in the United States, or make sure that they're in there.
PROD CIS
AFD CIS, if decision is a "yes" closing admin will delete and redirect