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Assess : newly added and existing articles, maybe nominate some good B-class articles for
GA; independently assess some as A-class, regardless of GA status.
Cleanup : *
Sport governing body (this should-be-major article is in a shameful state) *
Field hockey (History section needs sources and accurate information - very vague at the moment.) * Standardize
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Sport in the United Kingdom - the
Popularity section is incorrect and unsourced. Reliable data is required.
* Fix project template and/or "to do list" Current version causes tables of content to be hidden unless/until reader chooses "show."
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No image and QPQ done. Hook is interesting and inline cited (at the paragraph level in the section "Traditional and legendary explanations") to The International Journal of the History of Sport which is RS. Article is (very much) long enough, NPOV, and new (created March 7). Earwig returns one percent ("Violation Unlikely"). Good job,
Zanahary!
Chetsford (
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04:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The QPQ check tool to the right counts only 15. I don't really trust the QPQ tool that much because it barely counts 40% of my own nominations. But If the nominator feels that they have done less than 20 noms this can go forward or they can do the double. This case is on the honor system.-
TonyTheTiger (
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18:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Since the backlog mode did not start until 00:00 8 March, and this nomination was made on 7 March, this would not have needed a second QPQ even had the nominator had 20 or more prior nominations, which it didn't. Restoring original tick by
Chetsford.
BlueMoonset (
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03:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
(not GA criteria, just my feedback) Citations are not needed in the lead, as everything mentioned in the lead should be elaborated on in the body paragraphs (
MOS:LEADCITE). ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk00:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There's an unused suggested ref to use on the talk page and a useful source in the "further reading" section - these could be incorporated for better breadth (criteria 3a). ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk00:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I just received that one (in Further Reading) in the mail! I don't have access to the Talk-suggested one, but I imagine its content is all included in the book.
Zanahary (
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01:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
i removed some unnecessary wikilinks and did a little bit of cleanup, but overall the prose is very good! ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk01:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
is the "other bullfighting traditions in Madagascar" section necessary? i think it might be a bit too
WP:COATRACKy for this article; you could probably spin it off into
Bullfighting in Madagascar and maybe add a summary-style background section to this one. ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk01:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I thought about that, but what I wrote is really the entirety of what sources say about "other" forms of bullfighting in Madagascar, and no sources discuss them all together under one umbrella. There’s also a bit of ambiguity about the relationships between the traditions and whether they are separate or just one practice under different ethnic names. Without enough content for a real spin-off, I think the presence in the article as is is ideal.
Zanahary (
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02:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
that makes sense to me; it's probably the best way to do it for now at least. in that case; perhaps the section could be either added to an initial "background" section, or moved to the end, almost like a "see also" section? up to you :) ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk02:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
not a requirement for GA, but there's a
MOS:SANDWICH issue in the "zebu" section - it'd be good to move the images around so there's not text between them. ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk03:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Sawyer777,
Zanahary, what is the status of this review? It's been four weeks since any post was made to this page, though I see that Zanahary has recently made edits to the article itself. Thank you.
BlueMoonset (
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19:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)reply
good question - i still have outstanding review comments which Zanahary has not responded to (although it's no skin off my back - i'm in no rush) and was going to ping them. if the page numbers issue is resolved, it will be very easy for me to do some spotchecks and wrap this up soon. ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk21:17, 21 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry, I didn’t realize that was a request! I have no idea how those work, so I’ll try and figure them out. I do prefer to be able to click on a citation and be able to identify its full record—do you know of a way I can specify page numbers without losing that feature?
no worries! shortened footnotes link back to the full citation, so there is nothing to be concerned about there. other than that, i still stand by my suggestion that the [other bullfighting traditions] section could be either added to an initial "background" section, or moved to the end, almost like a "see also" section, although i wouldn't consider that a requirement for passing GAN. thanks :) ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk21:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi @
Sawyer777, I'm having a lot of trouble understanding how to integrate sfns into existing citations. Would it be possible for you to, as a model, set an sfn for the anchor that names the rice-planting season? It's in the first sentence of the article body, and the relevant page in the source is 439.I ask this without presumption—if you can't help me with this, I'm sure I can figure it out eventually—but it would be so helpful! Thank you very much.
Zanahary (
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23:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)reply
done! although it has caused harv errors (useful script
here if you don't have it) since there is only one sfn, but that is fixable by replacing all of the other instances of that citation with sfns like this: {{sfn|Eynard|2017|p=(page number)}}. that will point them all to the cite template in the bibliography section. hope that's helpful!! ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk01:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Thank you so much! I just finished adding page numbers to all the Eynard stuff. I'll do it for Ratsimbazafy and Combeau-Mari too.
Zanahary (
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02:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
awesome! like i said, i'm not in a big rush, as i'm preparing an article for FAC. feel free to ping me again when you're done or if you have any other questions :) ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk02:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
awesome! i'll do a few spotchecks (probably using google translate) to make sure everything's neat and tidy, and then i think it's good to go :) ...
sawyer * he/they *
talk01:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
final comments
spot-checked Eynard 2017, looks good
spot-checked Combeau-Mari 2011, also looks good
checked a few web-sources, also all look good!
the quality of the sources is pretty solid, especially considering the under-developed media ecosystem in Madagascar. glad to see some academic coverage of this topic.
i stand by my suggestion above for reorganizing the "other bullfighting traditions" section, but it's definitely not a dealbreaker for me.
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