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I decided to take back my recommendation of speedy deletion after reviewing sources and realized the name was misspelled which was why I had an issue finding sources.
Reb1981 (
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01:31, 31 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Some proposed changes
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I am a paid assistant for Sarah Ruden, who hired me because she does not have the technological expertise to suggest edits for her article. I was hired to add major information missing from the article and to correct a political slant in the article’s references. Sarah has not given me a specific mandate beyond these two general guidelines. I have produced the following text from my own research. Because the additional material is substantial, I have created an expanded version of the article below for your review. I will note specific edit requests to the existing article in separate Talk page sections.
Arphaer (
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20:22, 5 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Part of an edit requested by an editor with a
conflict of interest has been implemented.
Ruden has been a “convinced Friend,” or
Quaker convert, since 1992. Her Quakerism informs her translation methodology, which emphasizes minimizing scholarly and ecclesiastical intervention to present ancient literature on its own terms.[1][2][3] Ruden’s translations are noted for their concise poetics, contemporary vernacular, and fidelity to the original texts.[4][5][6]. She is a vocal advocate for the popularization of ancient texts.[7]
Partly done: I have gone through your sources and implemented what could be done, with some creative twists. Note that personal interpretations from the sources were not included. Reviews must be properly attributed and noted, not creatively interpreted, for example.
PK650 (
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01:38, 14 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Ruden became an activist Quaker during her ten years spent in
post-apartheid South Africa, where she was a tutor for the
South African Education and Environment Project.[4][5] Both before and after her return to the United States in 2005, Ruden has engaged in ecumenical outreach and published a number of articles, mainly in conservative publications.[6][7]
In 2010, Ruden was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship to fund her translation of the
Oresteia of Aeschylus.[1] She won a Whiting Creative Nonfiction Grant to complete her translation of
The Confessions of Augustine in 2016.[2] Her translation of the Gospels was funded in part by a Robert B. Silvers Grant for Work in Progress in 2019.[3]
The source's placement in a prominent location to cite a very basic fact seems like linkspam. However, I have not removed the citation entirely. I have moved it to a location farther in the article where it can cite factual information that lacked sourcing.
MaryMO (AR) (
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02:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Specific text to be added or removed: Reference 2, essay entitled "The Mandela Myth" by Rob Dreher on the conservative website The American Conservative.
Reason for the change: Politically slanted. Irrelevant citation; provides no pertinent general information on Sarah Ruden's essays.
The source's placement in a prominent location to cite a very basic fact and lack of connection to any actual content in the Wikipedia article again seems like linkspam. If there was a discussion of the Nelson Mandela essay elsewhere on the page I would have moved it there. Since there is no current text on that topic, I have removed it.
MaryMO (AR) (
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02:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Specific text to be added or removed: Reference 4, link to Christianity Today's review of Sarah Ruden's The Face of Water: A Translator on Beauty and Meaning in the Bible.
Reason for the change: Politically slanted source.
Is there any actual content you want us to consider? Removing sources due to ideology is not a valid argument, although I agree the first one does seem to be unreliable.
PK650 (
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01:23, 14 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I agree with Arphaer that it is not appropriate to remove this source, since it is a discussion of her and her work. If something is factually inaccurate in a source, then it can be challenged on those grounds, but simply presenting a different viewpoint is not grounds for removal. Wikipedia's goal is to present an accurate balance of viewpoints.
MaryMO (AR) (
talk)
17:41, 8 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Removal of broken links
This
edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Specific text to be added or removed: Reference 3, link to Stonehill College's website.
Reason for the change: Broken link, irrelevant source.
This
edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Please add the following books to the Bibliography, Translations section:
Plato (2015). Hippias Minor or The Art of Cunning: A new translation of Plato’s most controversial dialogue. Introduction and artwork by Paul Chan, essay by Richard Fletcher. (trans.) Badlands Unlimited and the DESTE Foundation for Contemporary Art.[1]