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This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) -- Helios688 ( talk) 04:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC) I literally just started working on the page and I'm not as speedy a wikipedia editor as most of you.
Updates have been made fixing the initial errors. Helios688
This article should not be speedy deleted as lacking sufficient context to identify its subject, because... (your reason here) -- Helios688 ( talk) 04:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Issues are fixed. Please undo speedy deletion. Helios688 ( talk) 04:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
insufficient notability for a separate article; better merged to system DGG ( talk ) 07:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
clearly insufficient significance for a separate article; merge to avoid deletion. DGG ( talk ) 07:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Clearly insufficient information for a separate article; merge to avoid deletion DGG ( talk ) 07:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Clearly insufficient information for separate article; merge to avoid deletion DGG ( talk ) 07:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
insufficient justification for a separate article for this very small hospital--better merged DGG ( talk ) 07:20, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello,
(Full COI disclosure, I'm from Samaritan Health Services Marketing dept. I am willing to propose suggestions, and I do not intend to edit the article myself.)
SHS oversees the operations of five Oregon hospitals: Perhaps we can simply leave the current text, but remove the links and separate pages to the individual hospitals.
Is the use of citations about our separate hospitals to our own site problematic? If it is, I can work on gathering secondary sources.
John At SHS ( talk) 23:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hello,
(Full COI disclosure, I'm from Samaritan Health Services Marketing dept. I am willing to propose suggestions, and I do not intend to edit the article myself.)
I would like to suggest a lead section providing historical, financial, and governance context.
From "The Samaritan Health Services (SHS) is a non-profit, integrated delivery healthcare system consisting of five hospitals in Oregon and is headquartered in Corvallis, Oregon."
To "Samaritan Health Services (SHS) is a not-for-profit [1] regional health system that brings together community hospitals, [2] physician clinics and health insurance plans [3] to serve more than 250,000 residents of Oregon’s Benton, Lincoln and Linn counties [4]. SHS is governed by a board [5] and is one of the region’s leading employers [6] with its 5,500 employees [7]. SHS was formed over the course of five years beginning in 1997 [8]."
John At SHS ( talk) 00:26, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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There are issues with the following:
The use of no less than 7 ref tags in the proposed lead section should be reduced, by placing the references in a proposed main body of text.Keeping references out of the lead makes it easier to read, and keeps it free of clutter and easier to edit. The explanatory and more detailed text with the references (should be) already found in the article. Since references are used to document specific content, but the lead is a short summation in a generalized and unspecific format, the use of references in the lead is a duplication of effort. If there are any references in the lead, they should be kept to a minimum. If a reference is required in the lead, then that might be a symptom that something is being introduced there that is not in the body of the article, and that would be improper. [1]
"to serve more than 250,000 residents"is imprecise and implies a need to make the number seem as expansive as possible (i.e., "more than").
"one of the region’s leading employers"How is it a leading employer, by leading in retirement plans? In benefits? In hourly wages? In parking? This example is classic WP:AWW and should be left out or re-worded with specificity.
"Formed over the course of five years"This amount of time is odd. Why was it that it took 5 years to be "formed"? The lead does not explain this, and a lead section should never raise issues which are left to be explained later — if explained at all.
Kindly reformulate the proposed lead section along the lines of the suggestions offered here, and feel free to resubmit the edit request at your earliest convenience. Regards, Spintendo 03:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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