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Just started with this article.There arent any copy right volations, please dont start deletion. Tarijanel 21:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Please discuss improvements in article. Tarijanel ( talk) 02:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
The title Stone crosses of Kerala fits better than Rock crosses of Kerala. Moreover, the name used in its inscriptions is Stone cross. Neduvelilmathew ( talk) 18:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Why did you remove informations provided in the article. Can you explain about the inscriptions. Pamparam ( talk) 08:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I have renamed the title to Ancient Crosses of India. These Crosses are in Kerala, Goa and Tamil Nadu.The earlier title as Kerala Crosses was not appropriate. Pamparam ( talk) 20:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
This article Ancient crosses of India throws some doubts.
1) Who said this crosses were known as Persian Crosses. What is your source on this ? This article itself mentions about 16th century document which calls the Cross as Saint Thomas Cross. Do you have any old documents which calls it as Persian Cross ?
2) It is stupid to compare this Cross with Menorah. Such comparisons are absolute wrong ramblings. Ask sources to those who make such comparison.
3)It was never any symbol of Knanaya, if you mean the Southists. Out of the many Churches which are listed in article only Kottayam Church is under Southists. The history of Kottayam Church is obscure with a foundation date of 17th century begining. Where did you get the notion about Southists when all the other Churches are non Southist ?
4) One of the cross has Syriac inscriptions as well. Would that make you to ask if it was of followers of some Syriac Church. You might need to read some basics about Christianity in India rather than relying on your obscure so called independant research ? I dont know if you can claim the Pre- 16th century christians in Kerala as followers of different religion to a comparison with the 21st century Protestants found in Kerala.
Pamparam ( talk) 03:08, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I hate it when other people tag articles for improvement & do nothing else -- but I honestly don't know where to start on this one. It's a fascinating topic, the opening paragraphs aren't bad (although they could definitely be better) -- but then it goes rapidly downhill. The section "Trinitarium" is an unsourced rambling essay about the possible origins of these crosses -- or at least a native explanation of them; I don't know whether to drastically rewrite it or just remove it. The section "Interpretation of the Inscriptions" is a non sequitor: do all of these crosses have the same inscription, or just one or two of them have the inscriptions translated here? (If so, which ones? What language is this inscription in? Are the inscriptions difficult to read?) And then there are issues with the language, which is sometimes inappropriate for an encyclopedia, & sometimes just baffling. Could someone who knows someone about the subject -- & can a good article -- have a go at this article? Otherwise, a less sympathetic editor might just decide to take a sharp scalpel to this & simply remove what can't be easily fixed. -- llywrch ( talk) 17:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
This is a very fascinating topic as you mentioned. Even each of the free standing crosses has its own history. I hope some one with time and information will update more on this .
Pamparam ( talk) 03:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I have removed the section "Trinitarium" which are off ramblings. Features about these crosses appeared in many history journals including oxford. Pamparam ( talk) 03:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The term Nasrani Menorah is a recently coined word. (less than 50 (?) years). Earlier these crosses were known as Persian Crosses. Neduvelilmathew ( talk) 16:13, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I have doubts about the integrity of this article. Is this really worth to be included in an encyclopedia?
There was a gnostic cult that wa teaching Holy Spirit abandoned to Jesus on the Cross, because this many Christians painted and sculpted to Dove of Holy Spirit on the Cross. Read theology and history of church books, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.248.203.74 ( talk) 14:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
The WP article has been linked to Category:Salvation in Catholicism because the subject matter is the principal symbol that is historically associated to one of the twelve Apostles and bishops who were ordered by the Lord Jesus and who founded the Catholic Apostolic Church. Each of them was assigned to a different Apostolic See and was inspired by the Holy Spirit God to write a faith article of the Apostolic Creed. Regards, Theologian81sp