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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because the subject, Ryan Cohen, is a notable entrepreneur who founded and served as CEO of the company
Chewy, which was acquired by
PetSmart for more than $3 billion in 2017, the largest ever acquisition of an e-commerce company. Cohen has been profiled in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes,
Miami Herald, Inc. and elsewhere. The Wikipedia page is written in a neutral tone, it is concise, and it does not seem to pass
Criteria for speedy deletion.--
Bernie44 (
talk)
00:21, 25 May 2018 (UTC)reply
However, he didn't have a passion for jewelry. An avid pet owner, Cohen saw an untapped online market potential in pet products. is so far from an encyclopedic tone that it falls under
WP:G11 from my point of view. I agree that
WP:A7 (obviously non-notable people) is not met. We'll see what the admins think.
power~enwiki (
π,
ν)
00:23, 25 May 2018 (UTC)reply
After your two edits, I agree it's not quite G11 anymore. I've removed the tag and will wait for someone else to comment before editing further here.
power~enwiki (
π,
ν)
00:31, 25 May 2018 (UTC)reply
I believe this subject deserves its own page. He is notable as an entrepreneur for the size and success of the company he founded as demonstrated by the amount of press on the matter from reliable third-party sources. I have reviewed the Talk Page and Revision History, and am aware of previous concerns over paid editing. I have rewritten the page in what I believe is a concise and neutral manner. Best, Brandy
Branpedia (
talk)
00:26, 28 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Why blacklisting my source reference to his firm's form to sell his BBBY?
Now we need to add another reference because someone decided to blacklist a well known investment company's web site? Why is this blacklisted, because it's not in Yahoo? My original reference:
[1]InquisitionX (
talk)
04:16, 20 August 2022 (UTC)reply
I knew adding the lawsuit would cause some kickback. But I didn't expect it would be entirely deleted within a few hours! Recommend using the talk page to discuss. Wikipedia reports what reliable sources say. The problem is not the case, or Wikipedia, it's what reliable sources are saying - take it up with them. Removing it from Wikipedia won't remove it from WSJ and wherever else it's being reported. --
GreenC04:58, 5 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Ryan Cohen's Twitter bio now reads: "she/her/hers." This could suggest that Ryan Cohen's pronouns are she/her/hers. However, it is also possible that it may have another meaning.
Given the ambiguity, I wanted to open up a discussion to see if anyone has more context or thoughts on whether there should be an update the pronouns in Ryan Cohen's Wikipedia article.
Yes. Apparently there is a Twitter account, purporting to be that of Ryan Cohen, that says "She/her".
[1] This is resulting in IP editors changing the entire to reflect "she/her".
There are a couple problems:
Twitter is notoriously unreliable. The account might not be controlled by Ryan Cohen ie. by a disgruntled employee, family member, hackers, fake account
It might be a joke by Ryan
It's a primary source and only a single source. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Why are there no other sources that discuss the fairly major news that the CEO of GameStop is going by she/her? It makes no sense.
There is no history of Ryan going by she/her or having any tendencies
Given the history of shenanigans that go on around GameStop, and Ryan, particularly with stock manipulation, we need to treat this with a great deal of caution.
In summary: Wait for better secondary reliable sources.
"This account might not be controlled by Ryan Cohen" - It's his
official account and I doubt a bad actor would not leave any damaging tweets if they are disgrunted
"It might be a joke" - What exactly is a joke in changing pronouns?
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - I don't see how pronouns are extraordinary. Also, I've never in my life seen a news article entirely dedicated to someone changing their pronouns, especially if that person isn't very famous or just an investor. With Ava Kris Tyson, which is definitely a more famous person, I've only seen news report once she talked about being gender non-conforming and when she shared transition timeline pictures. However, even with her, when she changed her pronouns to "any" or in the end "she/her" I did not see any articles about that.
Quirkykoala (
talk)
18:10, 28 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Sounds like you should have no problem demonstrating there are reliable secondary sources. When you find some, please post them here. --
GreenC19:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)reply
For now, while we wait for a secondary source, does it not make sense to make the article gender neutral (either just "Cohen" or they/them) to make sure there is given neutrality to the subject?
Quirkykoala (
talk)
19:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)reply
does it not make sense. What makes sense is reliable secondary sources. It is independent confirmation they want to be called he/she, everywhere including not only Twitter. There is too much ambiguity for us to change anything on Wikipedia yet. --
GreenC22:10, 28 July 2024 (UTC)reply
It is readily apparent from Ryan Cohen's recent twitter that this topic is some attempt to troll, and completely unserious
Bleaf1 (
talk)
02:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Even if it is, wouldn't it set a dangerous precedent to not take someone seriously when they come out with something so personal and vulnerable?
84.217.210.209 (
talk)
13:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Wikipedia requires reliable sources. As soon as they take it seriously, this article will do the same. The dangerous precedence would be to ignore that requirement on a BLP. --
Escape Orbit(Talk)11:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)reply
That profile picture looks distinctly AI generated. I'd rank this as dubious and reliable secondary sources are needed for a change of such significance. --
Escape Orbit(Talk)10:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)reply