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Original owners of Rustavi 2 were bisnessmen Erosi Kitsmarishvili, David Dvali, Dsharchi Akimidze and Nika Tabatadze. From July 2004 to December 2005 the Adjarian businessman Kibar Khalvashi owned 90 %. He was non-political but close to the Saakashvili government, had close ties to the former minister of defence Irakli Okruashvili who was his lawyer for many years. On January 4, 2006 David Bezuashvili - a brother of Georgia's foreign minister - bought 22 % of the Rustavi 2 shares. In summer 2006 Khalvashi sold his shares to the company GeoTrans, Beshuashvili sold to Georgia's Industrial Group. Until the beginning of 2007 Rustavi 2, the television company Mze TV and radio station 1st Stereo will merge into a holding. [1]
An editor is removing the statement that Rustavi 2 is considered as a Saakashvili mouthpiece, claiming the source doesn't state this. The source states:
The Georgian daily, Rezonansi, wrote on August 30 that the top management of Imedi TV – in charge of news and political programming - is now composed of people with close links to the authorities. It also noted sarcastically that Imedi TV might become a “Rustavi 3” – a reference to Rustavi 2 TV, which is a private television station, but is regarded as a government mouthpiece.
Hey Russkie, what's up! That's what happens when you have free newspapers in the country. They can criticize the government as much as they want. That particular article is very critical of Saakashvili and his government. So, we can't just put that information on the encyclopedia without backing it up with something else. Does it make sense, buddy?
KOBA (
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23:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)reply
First, I'm not Russian. Second, is civil.ge a reliable source or not? If it is, then if it says it is a mouthpiece, then we can say so on the article. Third, you are right, WP is not Soviet-era Pravda, but at the same time, it is not Saakashvili-era Rustavi 2, in which investigations are not carried out on Saakashvili and his government, and which is censored by the Georgian government. Got that one, Gruzinsky? --
RussaviaDialogueStalk me02:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)reply
The dropping of
Mikheil Saakashvili is one of the
Russian invation to Georgia goals. So evrything Saakashvili doing becoming bad, Rustavi 2 is Saakashvili's Pravda ect. Mikheil Saakashvili is not departing fo K.G.B like Putin or Medevdev. He grow up in democratic country and adherent democracy.
anyway, nobody her is media scientist, and conclusion like
User:Russavia come to are not acceptable.
Firstly, Medvedev ISN'T a former KGB agent like Putin - he is civil. Secondly, Main target of invasion was a defence of South Ossetia. If you have your brains washed then plz go to mental hospital. WP is not a forum. From now such new msgs will be deleted shortly as discussion page IS NOT a forum (look at the template above). SkyBonTalk\
Contributions18:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)reply
SkyBon. Can I ask you to stop trolling? If you really care about the integrity of this talk page, first delete personal attacks against other users.--
KoberTalk07:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)reply
WP is not censored, and if a multitude of sources (Georgian and American mind you) state that Rustavi 2 is a mouthpiece of Saakashvili's government, then it stays. I don't care what any editors opinions are, as they don't care what mine are, but when
reliable sources state it is a mouthpiece of the government, then its good enough for inclusion on the article.
RussaviaDialogueStalk me04:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Newspapers are soures for news. so they can be reliable sources for news. opinion, gossip and others should be considerd as it opinion, gossip ect. The only reliable sources for a such severe accusation is academic work.
Nevertheless, I try to find thos sourses you mention but find nothing. Pleas give us the link to the specific articles that we can check them as wall.
Geagea (
talk)
23:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)reply
I don't know how they teach research in Russia but when I was taught writing, I was told that I should use facts instead of 'hard statements'. Calling a private television a 'mouthpiece' of somebody is a controversial statement; so, let us refrain from that.
KOBA (
talk)
03:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)reply
What makes one think I am Russian? I suggest people go read
WP:V. If we have half a dozen sources (I can find at least a hundred more, but refuse to do so) that state it is a mouthpiece of Saakashvili's government, then we can state so in WP. To say it is "believed not to be independent" is only telling half the story; why isn't it believed to be independent, and in what way? The desire to cover up this piece of information is not on. --
RussaviaDialogueStalk me00:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Still you did not give us even one link for source that I can check if you understand correctly the link. Maybe if you do so I can convince your point.
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00:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)reply
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