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And the person Mercer copied might have not been around if he [Bean] hadn't copied someone too. Perhaps, Mercer wouldn't be around if it weren't for John Bean, but I don't think it's necessary in the article.
Steviedpeele20:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)reply
I think Leroy Mercer is very relevant. If you listen to both sets of tapes/CDs, it's clear that Brent Douglas was very directly copying John Bean. Additional links:
This was initially posted on my talk page regarding this matter
It's common knowledge in parts of the Southeast that Roy D. Mercer got his schtick from a tape made by a fellow named John Bean that spread around the southeast. I thought this was the point of Wikipedia to be able to dissmeinate ACCURATE information.
If it is common knowledge in the southeast then someone should have written something about it in a newspaper or magazine, some kind of source that is considered
reliable. Yes Wikipedia does strive to be accurate, but part of that accuracy is
providing sources, so that people can
verify that what you say is in fact accurate. The
five pillars of wikipedia explain a lot of this, including the point of wikipedia. -
Optigan1320:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)reply
I've stubbed the article as it was wholly unsourced. Irishguy was correct in removing the criticism. While the metropulse article is reliable in terms of being a real paper, it does not directly mention Roy Mercer vs Leroy Mercer with any kind of comparison. It only mentions that there was a John Bean, and very briefly mentions Leroy. What I meant by neutral point of view(NPOV) was that your criticism tone needs to be a little more neutral tone. You should also let the facts speak for themselves. If you can point out that John Bean was doing Leroy Mercer long before Brent Douglas was doing Roy D Mercer, a reader will be able to make that connection. I'm sorry if I confused you by characterizing the Metro Pulse article as reliable. While it does appear to be a reliable newspaper, it also has to support the assertions you make.
Optigan1304:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)reply
Notability
Definitely notable; 72 hits in Google News' archive:
Although Roy D. Mercer isn't per se a recording artist, I would think that anyone who has had multiple releases of anything on a major label would be notable enough. Mercer has had nearly 20 albums on Virgin or Capitol -- so I would think that, by an extension of WP:MUSIC's criterion that multiple releases on a major label generally equals notability, Roy must be notable.
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Roy D Mercer
The article about Roy D Mercer is incorrect. The character was in fact began by a gentleman in Knoxville TN. His first call was made around 1992 to Thom Mckan shoe store in West Town Mall —Preceding
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I have listened to several recordings by the Leroy Mercer character and I don't see much comparison except they both use a telephone. Leroy Mercer's tone on these calls is condescending to the person being called while Roy D. Mercer's tone is one of over-the-top anger. Where Leroy Mercer belittles his victims and rarely let's them in on the "joke", Roy D. Mercer is mainly threatening -- but always letting the victim know what's going on.
I was around when Roy D. Mercer first started, and I know for a fact that Phil Stone and Brent Douglas created Roy and his family out of their common experiences with their families and friends in Oklahoma.
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