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Changed the initial description. Wtf was that. He did and later when you go deeper into the article, you see that he wasn't exactly questioning the holocaust but rather Israel's use of the holocaust as a scapegoat and boogeyman for its operations in the Middle East. Joseph Memestar ( talk) 22:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
This article contains much commendation from the Islamic world, I would like to know how the rest of the world viewed his extensive scholarly pursuits(i.e. peers/academics). 65.73.44.148 ( talk) 13:10, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
As per the Wikipedia rules on notability, what do this article's more dedicated editors say Garaudy's notability is, and why? My impression from the article and the source material I've looked at is that he's notable as someone with a reputation for being a Holocaust denier, and that his unrelated contributions to philosophy and literature are not significant (meaning that his philosophical and literary works are significant only in terms of what they say about the Holocaust). Just seeking some education here under the legitimizing aegis of becoming less incompetent to edit the article. Guyovski ( talk) 00:24, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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Would it be nice and useful to expand this article by using the translation of the same article from French. French version seems to provide less shallow information about this important person...
Or, are there some deeper reasons for this situation (the lack of information as if Garaudy is an ordinary figure), like, him being a Holocaust denier? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.164.144.89 ( talk) 13:29, 10 December 2008 (UTC) If this is an offer I think you should just go for it. 62.226.30.93 ( talk) 19:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I will try to improve this article by adding SOURCED material to the article. I encourage all editors to only add sourcable material by reliabe sources going forward. Thanks -- Tom 00:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Can we get better sourcing for this. Thanks -- Tom 00:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I draw the attention of all to the following interview in French:
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/french/actual/garaudy/garaud1.htm
where Garaudy states:
"Je considère que le meurtre de juifs durant la Seconde Guerre mondiale est un fait."
Nevertheless, it appears that a French court convicted Garaudy of Holocaust denial. Most OECD countries have criminalized Holocaust denial. Such laws are inconsistent with freedom of speech, and with the notion that the courts are not the place to sort out intellectual disputes. It is possible that the French court was unable or unwilling to do justice to the complexity and full range of Garaudy's thought.
I agree that the entry should say more about Garaudy, an intelligent, restless, even tortured man, more interesting than any fictional character in a Graham Greene novel. He was raised a Protestant, and ran a Bible discussion group while a POW in Germany during WWII. Soon after the war he joined the French Communist party, which expelled him in 1970 for criticizing the USSR. Earlier he had been kicked out of Protestant groups for his Party membership. During the 1950s and 60s, Garaudy was one of the most intellectually respectable French Communists, whose writings had admirers among confirmed Christians and people on the French Right. The interview in the above link reveals a rather idiosyncratic Moslem and a confirmed critic of Israel. I trust that those who read this will agree that anti-Zionism and anti-semitism can be quite distinct. 202.36.179.65 20:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Holocaust denial IS anti-semitism... The Holocaust is the most documented genocide in History. Many people who proclaim themselves as "Anti-Zionist" simply use the shield of anti-Zionism to spout anti-semitic rhetoric --like Holocaust Denial. This is a manifestation of the "new" anti-semitism.
There may be more to Roger Garudy's life that might justifiably be included on his Wikipedia page. But there is no doubt that he was indeed anti-semitic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.162.253 ( talk) 01:56, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Actually that is quite false a narrative you've got there. There is evident white washing here in order to promote Islamophobia. I mean, Roger Garaudy is one of the, if not, the most important Philosopher post WW2. And out of all the interesting things that could be there in the intro, it is an out of context "Holocaust denial." His take was more about Israel's misuse of the genocide than about the numbers. He is a philosopher. Not a historian. Joseph Memestar ( talk) 22:21, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
"Abbé Pierre endorsed...", which claims that Abbé Pierre is agree with Roger Garaudy book have to be sourced. In the french version of the article about Abbé Pierre, it is said that he doesn't agree with all viewpoints of Roger Garaudy ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abb%C3%A9_Pierre). I recommand to be more accurate especially whit accusations like endorsing Holocaust denial. In France, denial of Holocaust is an offence. Roger Garaudy has been convicted and sentenced. Has Abbé Pierre been convicted of Holocaust denial by a justice court ? If not, this would be deffamation.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.121.1.26 ( talk) 14:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I post a demand here for the exapnsion of this article, it is very short and needs a lot of missing information.—Preceding unsigned comment added by A J Damen ( talk) • contribs) 19:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Can Gallassi explain why this has been reverted by him/her: “One of his books has been deemed as containing information regarded as Holocaust denial.[3]” If you read the citation it does NOT claim “many of his books” as was previously stated. That was demonstrably false. Thus I corrected it. Can you please explain why you keep reverting that edit?The citation ONLY refers to one book. Secondly This article is about a person. Wiki policy regarding biographies is quite clear about fairness and neutrality. The article has verifiable referenced info of Garaudy declaring that he never “denied” the WW2 persecution of European Jewry. So can we not agree to keep this article as accurately WN:neutral as possible so that the wiki reader can be better informed and thus can make up their own mind based upon the basic facts without spin. “All encyclopedic content on Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic.”-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 07:13, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
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For such a significant figure, there is very little written here about his actual biography, especially his activities in the French resistance. Laval ( talk) 05:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)