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He owned slaves. This should be mentioned up front. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.141.148 ( talk) 17:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
“When writing about controversies in the lead section of a biography, relevant material should neither be suppressed nor allowed to overwhelm“ - seems like you’re doing a bit of the suppression here, no? Nice argument by linking to the entire document explaining how to write about people rather than pointing to any specific ruling in particular. Seems more like you just don’t want the edit to go through if you don’t cite the actual rule and the rules themselves are counter to your behavior... Innuhnet ( talk) 17:57, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Owning slaves and operating a plantation has just as much to do with his business as an economist as having a degree in economics. Why do we call economists economists? Because it’s materially useful for understanding their life and context. Being a slaveholder politician in the south in the pre civil war era is materially important and you’re not doing anything to back up your position beyond saying “because I don’t want to” Innuhnet ( talk) 18:05, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Sounds like you have a particular soft spot for why slaveholders get differentials less respect than Hitler- maybe I should look at your edit history for evidence of bias about how biographies are written... wonder what I’d find! Innuhnet ( talk) 18:06, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Also why did you spell mothafuckas that way... I wonder! Innuhnet ( talk) 18:07, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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So what is the issue with adding it here than if you’re apparently in favor with the others? Innuhnet ( talk) 18:21, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
"Walker and his uncle also speculated in cotton, land and slaves." - from this very article - it *was* his job, it was integral to his advancement in life. I don't know why you're pushing so hard against inclusion if (a) you insist that it's reasonable to mention this as an important facet of the biography, and (b) it's reasonable to mention it with his contemporaries. Where do you draw the line here? Why does this case deserve special treatment beyond the fact that you've now dug in on a position? — Preceding
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Loan from Germany? Germany didn't strictly speaking exist until 1871. Does the article mean Prussia? TallNapoleon ( talk) 19:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Is that sum correct for the loan amount $250,000,00? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.66.3.241 ( talk) 06:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
There was an external link added (The Colt Revolver in the American West—Robert J. Walker's Presentation Model 1851 Navy) that qualifies as a reference. Along with Biographical Directory of the United States Congress, unless someone has reasons for disqualification, I think should be used properly. Otr500 ( talk) 02:00, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I need to leave the library now, but write because I was shocked at double-checking his entry using ancestry.com and seeing him as a slaveholder after 1838. I don't know when or if I'll have time to fix this article, as I intended to fix the Wheeling Suspension Bridge article this afternoon, got distracted with the Col. Robert McCormick article, and it's now dinnertime and I have other matters to attend to this week. Anyhow, this Robert J. Walker has an article in Appleton's Cyclopedia of American Biography which says he promoted the treaty for suppressing the African slave trade, manumitted slaves in 1838, and consistently advocated gradual emancipation. Since his mother died in Mississippi and his brother had children, I'm curious if any fought for the Confederacy (or if his sons fought for the Union). Also, Appletons says his father was a U.S. district judge and that this Walker (a financier of the highest rank) was the U.S. financial agent in Europe in 1863 and negotiated $250,000,000 in "5-20" bonds. Jweaver28 ( talk) 22:44, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Although I skipped a couple of needed exercise classes to clean this up a bit, I don't have time nor access to the full Oxford University Press book I cited, the Road to Disunion (1991). However, the excerpts available indicate Walker may have been a fairly important justifier of slavery, alongside Thomas Roderick Dew (who became President of the College of William and Mary), which make clarification of his slaveholding status more important IMHO. While traveling, I don't have time to find if anyone ever wrote a bio of him, much less research his brother and/or uncle Duncan Walker (who as Mississippi state legislator qualifies for a wikipedia article, hint hint), nor why this Walker supposedly freed slaves the year after his mother's death in Mississippi. Furthermore, the online materials I accessed don't explain the Mexican-American war money scandal, which seemed an focus of this article until recently. That may have been corruption or simply parking of government funds before their expenditure (given President Jackson's hatred of banking and Walker's apparently being trusted on a delicate financial mission during the Civil War). Jweaver28 ( talk) 19:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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Robert J. Walker (July 19, 1801 – November 11, 1869) was an American lawyer, economist and politician. He served as a member of the United States Senate representing the state of Mississippi from 1835 until 1845, and as Secretary of the Treasury from 1845 to 1849 during the administration of President James K. Polk. This line engraving of Walker was produced by the Department of the Treasury's Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) as part of a BEP presentation album of treasury secretaries. The portrait appeared on the fifth issue of 25-cent fractional-currency notes, issued in 1874. Engraving credit: Bureau of Engraving and Printing; restored by Andrew Shiva
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