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Major Point 1: Conception "It was the first Ramones album to feature new drummer Marky Ramone, who replaced founding member Tommy Ramone. Tommy left due to lack of album sales but stayed with the band to produce the album with Ed Stasium. The artwork's concept was designed by Ramones fan Gus MacDonald, and later modified by John Holmstrom to included Marky instead of Tommy." (summarised well in the lead)
Major Point 2: Lyrics and compositions "The songs on Road to Ruin were considered by both fans and critics as an attempt to get the band more airplay. The album incorporated musical elements which were unheard of in punk rock, such as guitar solos and ballads." (summarised well in the lead)
Major Point 3: Reception "The difference in style caused for mixed reviews by critics, with many pointing out that the band was trying to sell more records through a change in form. This attempt by the band failed, as Road to Ruin debuted at 103 on the Billboard 200, nearly 50 places behind it's predecessor Rocket to Russia." (summarised well in the lead)
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Major Point 1: Conception "It was the first Ramones album to feature new drummer Marky Ramone, who replaced founding member Tommy Ramone. Tommy left due to lack of album sales but stayed with the band to produce the album with Ed Stasium. The artwork's concept was designed by Ramones fan Gus MacDonald, and later modified by John Holmstrom to included Marky instead of Tommy." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
Major Point 2: Lyrics and compositions "The songs on Road to Ruin were considered by both fans and critics as an attempt to get the band more airplay. The album incorporated musical elements which were unheard of in punk rock, such as guitar solos and ballads." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
Major Point 3: Reception "The difference in style caused for mixed reviews by critics, with many pointing out that the band was trying to sell more records through a change in form. This attempt by the band failed, as Road to Ruin debuted at 103 on the Billboard 200, nearly 50 places behind it's predecessor Rocket to Russia." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
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The first paragraph of the Conception section "After the band's previous album … Marc Bell went under the alias of Marky Ramone" appears somewhat offtopic to me. I’m not sure how it’s relevant to the conception of the album. The drummer Tommy Ramone’s replacement process can be, I believe, skimmed if not skipped.
Thanks, CrowzRSA, very much for your diligence here. I do have some insights based on the above checklist that I think will improve the article:
The first paragraph of the Conception section "After the band's previous album … Marc Bell went under the alias of Marky Ramone" appears somewhat offtopic to me. I’m not sure how it’s relevant to the conception of the album. The drummer Tommy Ramone’s replacement process can be, I believe, skimmed if not skipped.
I took a few things out, but I would think since it is the band's first change in line-up it woould be a significant topic to put on this page. I know it has more-so to do with the actual band rather than album, but I feel as though including the process the members went through to obtain a new drummer is notable to the album since it is more-or-less the origin/history of the album.———I took out the information on the alias and made certain things more concise.
I think the statement "Even though the band had attempted to gain more mainstream acceptance with a change in musical style, it did not expand their audience as much as anticipated" can be more clear and easy to follow. (1a issue)
Fixed — I reworded and added quote by Tommy to assure it was not against
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"With the band's slight change in musical style, material included on the album was intended to gain a sense of mainstream acceptance, though the band members felt as though this was not achieved.[8][9] Tommy relates: "Road to Ruin was a flop Stateside, even though it had been a very deliberate attempt to secure American radioplay."[9]" That's perfect! Thanks a lot!
--Seabuckthorn♥01:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Besides that, I think the article looks excellent. Please feel free to strike out any recommendation from this review which you think will not help in improving the article which is our main aim here. All the best, --Seabuckthorn♥09:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Looking for some help on the lead section of this article, more balanced.
Hi, the second paragraph of the lead section of this article especially I feel could use work. It's uncited, and just focuses on asserting that fans and critics alike consider the album an attempt to get more airplay. And it wraps it up with "this attempt by the band failed". This doesn't come across as unbiased or fair to me. The opening paragraph was much more balanced, with positive as well. Pointing out that "I Wanna Be Sedated" became one of their most well known songs.
I also feel the article could mention more of the album's legacy. How it's a fan favorite, and the reception part of the article points out some people love it, so why doesn't the opening lead section do that too? Since it mentions aspects of the reception, but mainly the negative aspect for some reason. Plus, sales does not equal reception, why would music history on wikipedia be so focused on the money aspect? But I digress there.
Stuff like how "I wanna be sedated" went on to become a hit with a music video a decade later for Ramones Mania, is featured in movies like Spider-Man: Far From Home etc, lots of things could be in this article about it's positive legacy. The album is covered in it's entirely by The Mr. T Experience, that's also interesting and cool. The album contains fan favs like I Just Wanna Have Something To Do, and She's The One was selected by Rhino as a music video to promote their 40th Anniversary re-release. It's been pointed out that the album shows the band evolving with diverse styles and influences. My point, it's also a beloved album, seemingly unanimously in the top 4 of a beloved band by most people who talk about the band today. It's also one of their top albums on Spotify. Could just use a more balanced lead section. Hopefully others would also be happy to help this article.