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Can someone verify Renzo's birthday? Every website has a different date. ( MgTurtle 18:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC))
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Should the entry by Axeonator2 stating, "In June 2020, Renzo tweeted his defense of his quotations of the main architect of the Holocaust, Heinrich Himmler. In response to a Twitter user critical of his tweet, Renzo claimed, "it’s not my fault that your grandparents let them March through your country without a fight."" be removed from this BLP article? BasicsOnly ( talk) 19:23, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
As a public person and coach of children, it is important for the public to know about Renzo's position regarding Nazi ideas and his links to Nazi sympathizers. I request that this kind of information, when sourced, isn't deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14D:7E80:8378:8972:8E4E:85B3:6CFE ( talk) 20:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
We have no idea if your sources are impartial or reliable, as most of them I've never heard of, and in Portuguese. Additionally Roberto Alvim has likewise never identified as a "neonazi" (and you calling him one was reverted on his page). Lastly in regards to Helio Gracie's politics, they really have nothing to do with Renzo, it's already on his page, it doesn't need to be copied into here. Nswix ( talk) 21:14, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Should the "Personal Life" section include the subject's political opinions? 03:05, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any source.(emphasis added) As best I can tell, no source has indicated that the subject endorses, condones, adheres to, or espouses the political viewpoints or opinions of Himmler, Helio Gracie, or other prominent figures named in these edits. In fact, the source material acknowledges that Renzo specifically denied foreknowledge of Himmler's history despite quoting him. WP's policy on biographies of living persons further indicates that content which is contentious (such as this) must be immediately removed if it is poorly sourced or is an interpretation, analysis, or synthesis of sources. -- N8wilson 19:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with a couple sentences of inclusion from a neutral POV, but paragraphs of attacks about Nazis is a little over the top for an athlete. Nswix ( talk) 01:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
A number of these claims appear to be in the form of guilt by association.
1. That his father was a fascist doesn't mean he is. There's no reason to mention his father unless we are trying to imply that Renzo is fascist too. Implying someone is a fascist or even claiming it is true through guilt by association goes against Wikipedia policy, so I'm not sure how to justify mentioning it.
2. Pointing out his association with politicians by itself isn't meaningful. That the claim is being made that these are "authoritarian" and that this is a problem for Renzo is original research and violates BLP.
3. Claiming that Alvim is a neonazi is not supported by sources and is original research that also violates BLP. That this somehow means anything about Renzo is entirely unsupported.
As for things that might be ok to include
1. I can't verify the source, but I would be inclined to agree that he had a verbal spat with Macron.
2. His quoting Himler might be acceptable except that it is being used to imply that he did so in order to endorse Nazism, and given that he denied the connection it's not clear how to go about mentioning it without original research and BLP issues and, once again, implying something in violation of BLP.
In the end, there isn't much that doesn't come across as a smear campaign in direct violation of WP:OR and WP:BLP. Look, I don't know who this person is nor do I care, but I do recognize Wikipedia violations when I see them and these edits are full of them. Like I said, mentioning the fight with Macron might be fine as it seems well supported as long as we don't use it to try to prove he is a fascist or neonazi or anything like that. The rest of it appears to entirely too problematic. If I'm missing some critical elements then please point them out but for now this edit has serious problems. SQGibbon ( talk) 19:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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