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Tdiscioglu, I am not understanding your question. What needs to be checked? I have made a lot of edits to the article, checking sources to content, improving sources, etc. so I am not sure that there is still an issue, but I wanted to check in with you so I don't miss something.–
CaroleHenson (
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22:46, 20 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Recent edits
There are some recent edits to:
Remove content from infoboxes... I am not sure why, these are standard fields for infoboxes
The place of birth somewhere along the line had been changed to
Christina, Delaware, but the source says that she was born in Delaware. To add a town or city, a source is needed.
People who have researched Dr. Crumpler know there are no known photos or images of her. The foreign language translations of this article don’t seem to know that. Is there a way to fix this? If you know how to delete photos from the translated articles please do so!
Lee Price (
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20:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I am just seeing this. Yes, there are 12 articles in other languages. The approach would be similar to what is in the article now. See
#Images with a statement and a source.
Are you interested in splitting up the articles. My intention would be to translate the sentence Although no photographs or other images of Crumpler survive,[35][36] a Boston Globe article described her as "a very pleasant and intellectual woman and an indefatigable church worker. Dr. Crumpler is 59 or 60 years of age, tall and straight, with light brown skin and gray hair."[37] to the target language (and then I usually translate back again to English to see what happened / if it makes sense). Interested in dividing and conquering?–
CaroleHenson (
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19:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)reply
I went to make changes in the Arabic item (first of the 12 languages) - couldn't figure out how to add citations for the content and remove the image.
An IP user added some content that Crumpler also taught in Atlanta. I am not finding a reliable source for that. It cannot be added to other cited content where that's not covered, so I rolled back the edit
here.
If anyone finds a source, I am happy to double check it is reliable and properly format the citation and language. Just leave a note here.–
CaroleHenson (
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02:01, 12 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment about the article
This article is well written. It is informative but does not focus enough on Crumpler's life as a physician. Why is basically the same information that is in the lead restated in the body of the article?
Kmpittman (
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22:04, 7 April 2020 (UTC)Kmpittmanreply
Kmpittman, I am hoping to better understand you. There are four paragraphs about her career:
Career
Nursing and medical school
Doctor
Educator
A Book of Medical Discourses
Are you saying the "Doctor" section needs more info? Other? Do you have
reliablesecondary sources for greater detail?
I am confused by your comment about the
Intro, which is supposed to summarize the article. What were you expecting to see there that you are not seeing - or vice versa?–
CaroleHenson (
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23:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Hello! Thanks so much for taking this on! I don't think you are so at all,
SusunW. It takes time, it's the nature of the beast. This is one of my favorite articles, so I am really looking forward to sprucing it up!–
CaroleHenson (
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18:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Photos
Need more info on Joy Street photo, page number of book is
16 but it says the source is the LOC. Need to confirm with LOC no author known, when it was published (2004 book publication is only valid PD if you can prove the photo was never published before 2003 and that it dates to before 1900), and add a US PD tag.
The structure of the 2nd paragraph is a bit confusing. Did she have something to do with recruiting medical students or funding for schools? Possibly The great need for medical providers encouraged other black people to join the medical profession. Black charitable organizations and white missionary organizations provided funding for the first black medical schools should precede her entering medical school?
Well, she was a leader / pioneer, she didn't ride the wave, she helped create the wave. I removed it until or if I can find a source that mentions that she was a leader of the growth of African American physicians.–
CaroleHenson (
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19:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
This section is done.
Copyvio
Earwig shows a high confidence of violation with
this article published in February 2017. Going to the history of our article in January 2017, and physically doing a line by line comparison, it is clear that target health virtually copied what was in the existent WP article. Similarly the high confidence of violation with
After School Region 3 blogspot published on 14 February 2014, shows it is a word for word borrowing of the WP article as it appeared on 11 February 2014. The high incident report on
Changing the Face of Medicine's site is related to names and direct quotes. Based on this analysis, the WP article preceded those that mirror its information and there do not appear to be copy violations.
Lee Crumpler graduated is confusing. We do not know who this is. In the previous section you told us only that Davis and Crumpler were the same. (It's why I always write chronologically and weave the personal stuff in. It doesn't matter to me if you do that, but we do need to know who Lee is before you start using that term).
She was the first African-American woman in the United States to earn the degree, and the only one to graduate from New England Female Medical College is very close paraphrasing. Can you reword or quote it directly?
In the early 1870s, Crumpler attended the elite West Newton English and Classical School in Massachusetts,[4][11] where she was a "special student in mathematics." Seems to dangle as isn't really related to her medical training, nor is it in chronological order. Perhaps it is better placed at the beginning of "Educator" section?
I have no idea. I am guessing it could be mathematics and/or literature, for which she was skilled and interested, but I have no idea. I searched for this extensively when working on the article and I just went searching through old school yearbooks on Ancestry to see if I could find her listed as a teacher, but no luck.–
CaroleHenson (
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20:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
At the time, many early African-American authors have had their writings and books include prefaces and introductions that have a white male sounding authentication." Perhaps: At the time, writings and books by African-American authors had prefaces and introductions written in the style of white male writings to give them authentication.
While living in Charlestown, she replace "she" with Davis (or you could use Crumpler, though that seems odd to me as that came after Lee).
To avoid confusion in this section, for these edits, I am going to use her full name at the time of marriage. See what you think. Here it's Rebecca Davis.–
CaroleHenson (
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20:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
went to Robert Adams' son Went to implies to me that they had a choice. The article about it is a bit confusing, as it says that John Adams refused to allow him to be sold and he was instead "bid in". What does that mean?
Re, "bid in" seems to be "bid in competition" with people who monopolized the auction process through some sort of agreement with the auctioneer. See
this. There was a wrestling contest on the day of the estate auction between Arthur and John Adams. Arthur won a match with John Adams, who decided to keep Arthur for himself—rather than sell him. So, I am guessing it somehow played into his inheritance. And, since Arthur instigated the match, I think that there was some sort of decision made on Arthur's part to stay with the Adams family, if he could make that happen. I reworded that part a bit. See what you think.–
CaroleHenson (
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20:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Looks good to me.
where his family went same issue as above, they had no choice. Perhaps the whereabouts of those who purchased his family, or where his family were dispersed?
Sorry for the time delay. My gardener, who is stuck at home because of our "stay at home" order, wanted my recipe for avocado pesto. I had to type it out, in Spanish (with the autocorrect changing it all grrrrrrrrr) so his wife can make it. Fortunately, everything in it is in the garden. :)
SusunW (
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21:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Avocado pesto, oh my that sounds amazing! I have an avocado that is just today ripened to perfection and am going to look for a recipe myself.–
CaroleHenson (
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21:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I was able to find images of Rebecca Lee Crumpler but noticed this article says none survived. Not sure what to make of that or know how to add a graphic image to a wiki article, but it bothered me that there is a picture of her husband but the article says none exist of Dr Lee
Wikikatzed (
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19:32, 20 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I am seeing that
MaoClare removed the photo in the article and stated that there is not a verified photo of Rebecca Lee Crumpler.
In the article, there is a sentence that states that there is no surviving photo of Crumpler and
this is the source, which explains who the images are believed to truly depict. See also
thisNew York Times article. I will add that as a source to the article.–
CaroleHenson (
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23:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I can find no evidence that Dr. Crumpler was trained in or practiced homeopathy. The Directory of Deceased American Physicians lists her as an “Allopath”. Homeopathy at B.U. came later. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
74.69.123.20 (
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15:16, 22 August 2020 (UTC)reply
There's nothing in the article that says that she practiced homeopathic medicine, just that she was influenced by it.
The sentence in the article is Although her primary focus was on the health of women and children, which seemed to be influenced by homeopathy, Crumpler recommended courses of treatment without stating that the treatment was homeopathic.
I am not able to see into the cited source, but I found, "It may be these considerations that led some to assert that important pioneers like Mary Thompson and Rebecca Crumpler, who graduated from NEFMC, were 'homeopathically trained'"
here. See also "The New England Female Medical College supported the homeopathic approach to medicine
here.
I also thought back to her aunt when reading that statement.
In general, there are a lot of links in the page (See
MOS:OVERLINK). A lot. There still are. So, I trimmed down the multiple instances of the same links and links to common words. Perhaps the number of links could be trimmed down by only linking to the first instance (e.g.,
American Civil War,
Boston - especially where they are relatively common words/phrases)?
African American does not need to be hyphenated, that's actually dated usage. See
CJR style guide for race. (Even though the main article is
African Americans, there are still some subordinate articles and categories with the hyphen. Perhaps a discussion for another day.)
This may be more of a personal preference, particularly for pages that already have a lot of links, but I find it is easier to read articles without red links... again "particularly" where there may not be sufficient notability for separate articles. For instance, I don't think there is much information published by reliable sources for articles about her husbands. See
MOS:REDLINK
Changed
freed slaves to [[Freedman|freedmen and freedwomen]], my thought process is similar to slaves-->enslaved people.
Edit "intense
racism" to "[[racism|intense racism]]"
Language for the link similar to what a reader will find: "...to a predominantly African-American community [[List of addresses in Beacon Hill, Boston|street]] to "... to a predominantly [[List of addresses in Beacon Hill, Boston|African American community]]
Edit "Friends of the
Hyde Park Library" to "Friends of the Hyde Park Library (
Hyde Park Library)" - this may be a style thing, but it looks awkward to link part of a name of something. This is my best thought at the moment to handle that. There may be another, better option.
Jcejhay, I am so sorry that I reverted your edit. I did it accidentally and didn't know it until I went to my watchlist and saw that I made a change to this article. I have put it back in.–
CaroleHenson (
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02:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply