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wasn't the Pride Flag adopted by Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition in the 80s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.50.216 ( talk) 16:26, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Let's not put links in topic terms, okay? DeanaG ( talk) 00:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Pls see discussion thread at
Talk:Pride family flag.
User0529 (
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02:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I understood that the origins of the rainbow flag came from the colours associated with homosexuality over the years. For instance emerald green was the 'gay' colour in Victorian times, Pink in Nazi Germany, Lavender in the US etc etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.137.242.44 ( talk) 10:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Currently reference four is a link to an unsigned page from Carleton's Gender and Sexuality Center. [1] The page claims its source as the "Alyson Almanac" - I'm not certain that this book has an author either. All we have is a note at the bottom, "Gender and Sexuality Center pages maintained by Kaaren M. Williamsen", but Williamsen doesn't appear to have any particular expertise, [2] and the GSC isn't an academic department. [3] The claim that Baker got the idea from a "World Peace flag" is a substantial one, and I don't see that this reference meets Wikipedia's standards. Anyone got a better reference? 24.22.141.252 ( talk) 21:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Just a reminder to everybody that this page is specifically about the rainbow flag as used by the LGBT movement. Other rainbow flags (e.g. the flag of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, which I've just removed from this page) should go in Rainbow flag. — Spudtater ( talk • contribs) 13:13, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
This flag was already used by the incas. See the article about inca flag. 169.252.4.21 ( talk) 08:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
This should be mentioned in article: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57571382/conn-school-relents-allows-anti-gay-t-shirt/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.87.223 ( talk) 17:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
MOSCOW (Reuters) By Justin Palmer- Swedish high jumper Emma Green-Tregaro, who painted her fingernails in the colors of the rainbow flag in support of Russia's gay community, has been told not to repeat the gesture in Saturday's world championship final. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.180.198.38 ( talk) 16:12, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Is the bit talking about EIA Color Code (resistor colours) really relevant? Surely that's just generic "rainbow colours" rather than anything specifically to do with the LGBT Rainbow flag? 86.6.157.145 ( talk) 12:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
The Frank Sinatra film The Detective (1968) as well as being the prequel to Die Hard, was a pioneering film dealing largely with homosexuality. In the film there is a ledger of names called the Rainbow... so called because of the diversity of people it represented. It would be strange if the rainbow flag was not connected in some way to either this film or the 1966 book on which it was based. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.225.11.9 ( talk) 22:23, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
The connection comes later. -- Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 19:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
The flag designer may have been inspired by the use of rainbows in the movie "Rocky Horror Picture Show" (1975). Particularly, there is a pattern on tank in lab scene, and a rainbow is seen in the end scene. 99.230.246.99 ( talk) 04:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
symbolism of rainbow is not appropriate for a marginalized group. suggest splitting LGBT into gay groups and lesbian /femme groups. maybe use existing bear flag for gay groups rather than the femme rainbow flags. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.55.34.248 ( talk) 02:31, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
I suspect that the recent edit adding a sentence about how the flag is meant to be flown upside down is attempted whitewashing of Donald Trump’s mistake during a rally.
Etalli ( talk) 21:20, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
The flag was rather different during the 90s (in the US). The six colors were red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple. The blue and purple were quite different from the bottom two colors today. They were rather dark and very similar to each other. I have lots of memorabilia from the 90s with these distinctly different colors on them. The gay press and, I believe, contemporary scholarship both spoke pretty consistently of blue and purple stripes. I can't be the only person to recall this, which should be reflected in the article. I have no idea how that or the subsequent change came to be, but it would be good to hunt down the answer and include it in the article also. Antinoos69 ( talk) 10:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Secondary sources contradict each other on the meanings that Gilbert assigned to some of the colors; especially green, turquoise, and indigo. However, in every direct quote and interview with Gilbert that I found, he says that green is nature, turquoise is magic, and indigo (or blue) is serenity. In a video piece published by NBC Out in June 2016, he says that turquoise represents "art and magic"; this is now reflected in the flag diagram.
Many secondary sources say that turquoise symbolises art, and indigo harmony; some hedge their bets and report both. A few sources report the meaning of green to be "serenity with nature". Some sources make other claims, but these are the most common. I have yet to find a primary source that corroborates these alternate meanings. — Ringbang ( talk) 00:34, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Not trying to start anything, but the "proposed variant" that was added supposedly against Trump's policies seems to come out of nowhere. This seems to be a random thing that some Tumblr user has made up. I can't find any sources for it and have never personally heard about it before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.252.133.70 ( talk) 19:30, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
This flag is very similar to the Flag of Cusco.
Chackerian ( talk) 03:30, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
We had it in the 90s in Utah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.252.163 ( talk) 15:37, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
The rainbow flag was a flag that became popular in the time of the flower power movements. It was a very old universal symbol, symbolizing universality, the power of diversity, marvell, tolerance and openess, openess to other possibilities, opening the mind, in contrast with the very narrow minded, predictable path laid out: be a good christian, study, fall in love, get a job, marry, have a career, consume, have 2 children, serve the army, grandchildren, die and repeat; leaving so many frustrated: women who wanted to pursue a career, men who didn't want to match that pattern, so many clergy men and women who felt so unhappy / thought they had to devote their lives to Christ because they didn't even know there was something as a gender continuum/lgtb. The rainbow flag is a flag that unites and allows many others to bring and add their colors. Every people on the planet knows the rainbow, and it has been depicted by just about every people on the planet much earlier than the 1960-70'ies. So it is not to some Western people to grab and claim ownership of this symbol; that would be very unwise, selfish and a symbol of stupidity. It is certainly not the first time in 1960 or 70 that the rainbow was depicted on a flag. The flag refers to the rainbow, which refers to an element of nature every people knows and marvels at, hence it is a symbol universality, of the rich variety in nature, of marvel, of multi-colors = multiple possibilities, inspiration and tolerance. Because it is so universal - known to all people on the planet, and all these peoples attribute similar characteristics to it, it is a very open flag and symbol that unites, allows many other movements to unite behind it. It is certainly NOT the colors or the flag of the LGTB movement. The LGTB movement already has 2 colors: purple and pink and doesn't want to possess more and more colors, leaving nothing/take away - e.g. the flag of tolerance/symbol of tolerance - to other movements as this would expose a feeling of egocentricity of the lgtb movement which would harm the lgtb movement because they would be isolated iso taken-up again with others. At least since 2006, the misuse of the rainbow flag by the lgtb community has become so bad, that the rainbow flag in many non-western cultures is becoming a symbol of colonial, post-colonial, rainbow imperialism, imperialist culturalism - culture imposition on local culture, local ways of dealing with gender and forms of living together. -- SvenAERTS ( talk) 13:29, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Is there an article with an overview of the rainbow symbol in cultures all over the world? Thy -- SvenAERTS ( talk) 16:29, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
A new variant of the flag now features black and brown stripes.( link) Has anyone else noticed that this has been done in such a way as to make this exactly match the resistor color code? The only color left to add is then white, and then -- poetically -- we can add silver and gold to indicate tolerance. -- The Anome ( talk) 14:02, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Here it is:
Qzekrom ( talk) 03:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Article starts with "The rainbow flag, commonly known as the gay pride flag or LGBT pride flag, is a symbol of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) pride and LGBT social movements.". Would it be more accurate to move "LGBT pride flag" up a few words in the lead paragraph resulting in "The rainbow flag, commonly known as the LGBT pride flag or gay pride flag, ..."? (bolding for emphasis) -- EarthFurst ( talk) 23:43, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm not convinced the recent move/rename for this article by The Anome is aligned with the most commonly used name. I'd suggest restoring "Rainbow flag" to the article title. — HipLibrarianship talk 01:29, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
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The article Rainbow flag (LGBT movement) was recently moved to LGBT pride flag: What is the most appropriate name for the Wikipedia article? — HipLibrarianship talk 05:12, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) Red Slash 05:51, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
LGBT pride flag →
Rainbow flag (LGBT) – The article name should feature rainbow as the primary element. In addition to being most
commonly known as the "rainbow flag," the creator
Gilbert Baker called it the "rainbow flag" and
MoMA uses "rainbow flag" in its collection register. Also, the article title "LGBT pride flag" is ambiguous;
various pride flags are used across LGBT community. —
HipLibrarianship
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17:29, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Would love to see a section on its recognition as an emoji in 2016.
The City of Dallas, Texas, has formalized a "Dallas City Pride Flag" which will fly over the Dallas City Hall for the month of June every year starting in June 2020. The flag uses the 6-color rainbow flag with the Dallas City Seal in the middle. I believe this may be one of the first instances of a City-specific Pride Flag created by the ruling city council.
The city resolution can be found here in an article by the Dallas Voice https://dallasvoice.com/city-of-dallas-proclaims-pride/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.184.88.123 ( talk) 18:59, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
The origin of this flag was by a priest in Italian unification predating the stated period by almost six hundred years. 121.210.33.50 ( talk) 07:30, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
@ MensanDeltiologist, Gleeanon409, Marek69, Rmosler2100, Materialscientist, Jamiemaloneyscoreg, Shalomi Obami, Sydbeqabarrett, Hiplibrarianship, SRF13, Anagnostria, Flyer22 Reborn, LordWikiMaster, William2001, Bonadea, Shellwood, and CLCStudent:
I propose to merge United We Pride into Rainbow flag (LGBT movement). There is very little to support independent notability of the UWP article, which makes it eligible for a possible deletion nomination. Almost all of the sources, both those in the article as well as those found online, are about the flag itself and not about the "project." Perhaps a mention, properly sourced, in the main article on the LGBT flag can save the day. - The Gnome ( talk) 22:58, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
This article is very sold when it comes to providing information on the Rainbow (LGBT) flag. My only concern is that you don't state which version of the flag is the official LGBT Flag or how it can be expanded to match the more exclusive title of LGBTTQQIAAP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual) <ref> https://www.uis.edu/gendersexualitystudentservices/about/lgbtqaterminology/</red>. Would it be an important thing to include to make your article more up to date? Overall this is a very formal article and helped me learn a lot that I wasn't aware of before. All the conversations on the talk page are very interesting as well. NoahJacobsen ( talk) 00:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Please specify the acronym to be uniformly used in this article:
This RfC was closed prematurely as I was writing this:
The flag is typically flown horizontally, with the red stripe on top, as it would be in a natural rainbow.
No source is given. Sounds like OR. And it seems just plain wrong. I’ve never seen Pride flags that were flown differently from other flags. To give just one example: flag orientation varies regionally throughout Germany. In the windy coastal areas, horizontal flags predominate. But in the less windy south, flags are commonly hung vertically (to be more easily visible when there’s no wind.) And Pride flags are no exception, see, e.g., this flag from Munich. — ThorstenNY ( talk) 14:00, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Curious if we should include the "Layer Cake" pride flag that briefly existed prior to Mr. Quasar's Progress Pride flag. The one that prompted Mr. Quasar to make the Progress flag in the first place after calling the layer cake flag an abomination. It doesn't see much prominence nowadays but it was a funny little flag that still has its supporters. For those un-informed it is the Philadelphia Pride Flag with the trans colors slapped on top, making a striking 11 (or 13, can't remember) stripped flag. TheArrivedHussars ( talk) 07:06, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be beneficial to also include criticism of this flag? 80.43.75.81 ( talk) 08:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
I understand that you can observe the colors selection in multiple sources, but I observed that the proportions of the flag differ from place to place so I wonder why they are listed as 2:3 - is it supported by any organization explicitly? Nimdil2 ( talk) 12:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
I noticed the 2018 Progress Pride flag by Daniel Quasar this year. Being used in my city (big city in Canada). I did not know 2018 New Pride Flag by Julia Feliz existed until a few minutes ago when I came to Wikipedia.
Should we change the current Pride Flag on the article (top left) to either of Daniel or Julia new Pride Flags?
Who decides which one is the "standard"? Different areas in the world have different variants. Toronto (Canada) is using Daniel's version.
I haven't seen Julia's version being used in Toronto. Nothing against Julia MiroslavGlavic ( talk) 00:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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The New Pride Flag article lacks notability. Most independent sources discussing the topic just mention it in passing and I was unable to find in-depth coverage in secondary sources. Most other pride flag variants are already covered in the main article (section #Variations) so I propose that this topic also be covered there. ( t · c) buidhe 21:44, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Done per consensus and
WP:BOLD.
Caleb Stanford (
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05:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Do we have a RS as to what the colors should be digitized as? The current version is quite ugly IMO, especially the green, and doesn't look much like a rainbow. Cf. the green in the previous thread and the flag of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (how ironic!),
Apart from collapsing the two blues, what about using these colors for rainbow flag? Or using the right-side colors in the previous thread?
— kwami ( talk) 22:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Under notable flag creations mention should be made of the rainbow roundabout (a tourist attraction in Braddon, Canberra, Australia). https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6869884/braddons-rainbow-junction-named-international-roundabout-of-the-year/ TrevorHickman ( talk) 03:05, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
I suggest we change the image in the infobox to this one:
איתן קרסנטי ( talk) 13:45, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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Absolutely not. By its supposed "inclusiveness", it is explicitly missing other marginalized groups. It's mixing sexual queerness with people's race, and only black and brown for that. Giving the colors actual meaning will just lead to an ever-evolving flag with too many colors. Why not add one for sexual assault victims? It might as well just be all brown. I could go on. Asherkobin ( talk) 20:48, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
we should change the infobox image to this one, since its now the more commonly used, and includes more and is overall more inclusive.
Please respond quickly Babysharkboss2 ( talk) 16:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Europeans never made the 'gay pride flag', so how can it be Eurocentric? Just because you make something no one really likes, you cannot blame Europeans for it. Take responsibility for your own actions instead of being left wingers blaming Latvia for something the USA did on the other side of the planet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.71.29 ( talk) 12:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
It is a flag from the USA. How can it be Eurocentric? It is 100% American and not European. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.212.153 ( talk) 06:56, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
Is there a reason why we are using the lesser used LGBT instead of LQBTQ+ or something similar? Heymisterscott ( talk) 23:05, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
LGBTQ+ has a war flag, but doesn't it need to be an actual country to have one?
UltraDestroya48 wuz heer!!!! Ultradestroya48 ( talk) 03:58, 29 February 2024 (UTC)