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I propose to create an article on the "Racial wage gap in the United States" for 4 reasons:
1. A racial wage gap exists in America and has been documented by many scholars and written about in many journals. Research includes the wage gap for various minority races in the United States, its presence across various occupations and industries, and possible causes and solutions. There is thus ample evidence for the racial wage gap, and this collection of research merits an article to summarize and combine it.
2. The racial wage gap is important topic because inequality in wages is especially detrimental because they are the means by which individuals and families procure food, shelter, healthcare, and other necessities. Differing wages therefore lead to differences in these necessities which they procure, which puts racial ethnicities in America at a disadvantage. Opportunities are thus limited because of the racial wage gap.
3. The racial wealth gap in the United States is something that is not commonly understood amongst American citizens. While some deny its existence altogether, some also attribute it to things such as differences in education or skills. Research shows, however, that these differences cannot account for all of the difference that is observed in wages. Thus, this article is invaluable in combating misconceptions about the racial wage gap as well as for further informing those who already know of its existence.
4. As the racial wage gap has been verified through research, there has also been discussion on possible ways to eliminate it. Thus, I intend on making a section on these solutions and welcome other contributors who know of other ways that have been proposed. In this way, this article will serve to inform and also to provide a space for collecting of ideas to eliminate the racial wage gap.
You don't have to propose an article - just create it (which I will now do). The subject is most certainly notable and important enough for its own article. The only thing I'm wondering right now is whether it should specifically refer to "wage gap" or "income differences" since the two are not the same. Volunteer Marek 19:52, 15 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Thank you for being willing to review this article! I titled it "Racial wage gap in the United States" because that is the term used in the majority of the literature I have read on the topic. Scholars talk of racial income disparities, but in my research I most often encountered this concept under the term "wage gap." Do you find this to be a sufficient reason for its name, as long as it has the proper redirects (which it does not yet have)?
KiaraDouds (
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21:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Ok, more blue links have been added. Headings are capitalized properly. Source links are in the works. What would you suggest for the geographic inequalities section? There's not much out there relating it to the racial wage gap.
KiaraDouds (
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17:31, 22 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Mary Daly is not the same Mary Daly that authored the article I cited. I asked this in regard to the comment below, but is providing a link to the article in the reference section a way to make up for the fact that these authors do not have their own pages? Most articles give a brief description of the authors' positions and credentials.
KiaraDouds (
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03:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Black
The following is a bit redundant: "Progress resumed in the 1990s, with a decrease in the wage gap of .59 percent each year." vs. "During the 1990s, the black-white wage gap decreased .60 percent per year."--
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18:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)reply
I apologize for the first point. That is now fixed. The second suggestion is addressed in the sentence "Black Americans now number 36 million, 12.9% of the total population." I did not add it to the beginning of the section because it begins with the history the history of the black-white wage gap. I added it to the beginning of discussion concerning the current black-white wage gap.
KiaraDouds (
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03:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)reply
This does not seem right. The Asian and the Hispanic section begin with a clear statement on the current demographics. The Black section should begin the same way, IMO. Please reconsider this.--
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23:26, 16 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Agreed, the demographics at the beginning would make for more concise reasoning, rather than giving background in a story like format before the numbers are presented. --
EliFlo27 (
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03:16, 10 September 2018 (UTC)reply
My reasoning for not placing that information at the beginning is the difference between the sections. The black section begins with the history and how the Civil Rights Act has affected the wage gap. This is unlike the other race sections. Thus, I feel as if putting current demographic information beginning the black section would be out of place. I feel that the section would no longer flow chronologically.
KiaraDouds (
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22:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Hispanic
Is there any effect that might support a claim that Hispanic wages are depressed due to employers feeling that their investment in training Hispanic employees might evaporate upon deportment for fake papers otherwise illegal status.--
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20:39, 25 November 2011 (UTC)reply
I have tried many different ways of searching for this information, but I have not been able to find any information relating to your question.
KiaraDouds (
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22:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)reply
We can only summarize sources here. So if there are no sources, you have done your job.
Asian
Also need a statement of the size and composition.
First is done. My source for information concerning the asian-white wage gap is from 1995 (I could not find anything more recent). According to the National Association of Korean Americans, the Korean population rose greatly from the 1990 to 2000 census (
http://www.naka.org/resources/). Perhaps this is why they were not mentioned in the study I used. I have not been able to find any information from legitimate sources concerning the Korean American population's income.
KiaraDouds (
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03:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC)reply
"a $3.65 difference per hour was found between blacks and whites in the private sector, a 34 percent difference.[11] In contrast, a smaller difference of $2.85 per hour was found in the public sector, a 21 percent difference." suggest that public sector pays higher than private sector. Are your numbers correct?--
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21:05, 25 November 2011 (UTC)reply
I have linked the authors that have Wikipedia articles. Otherwise, I will be shortly adding links in the references. As these links will take one to the article, does this make the fact that not all authors are linked ok?
KiaraDouds (
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03:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC)reply
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talk·contribs) has not contributed to wikipedia since November 26. If I have left a message on his/her talk page stating that if he/she does not respond here by December 15 this nomination will close as a fail unless someone else steps forward to address these concerns.--
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20:27, 10 December 2011 (UTC)reply
The first sentence of the lead should prevent this article as being considered for a GA. The relationship between slavery and wages is
WP:FRINGE with the exception of African-Americans, and a minority position even then. It should not be in the lead. I'm not saying there is anything else appropriate or inappropriate about the article, just that the first sentence is inappropriate anywhere in a lead on Wikipedia.
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Jarble: The first sentence of the last paragraph of the lead is problematic:
Knowing the inequalities in the wages of various races is useful for understanding the overall
racial inequality in the United States because of the integral role that wages play.
It almost qualifies as content-free, but to the extent it means something, it takes a strong POV. I haven't looked at this article in some time, and I don't intend to, now. I don't see anything else obvious in the lead, and I don't want to get back in to the morass that editing this article has proved to be. —
Arthur Rubin(talk)19:00, 19 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Wow, this article is heavily slanted to push current political views on discrimination and inequality - at least the few sentences I read before bursting out laughing.
One extra laughable comment is, "The history of Black Americans in the United States is one characterized by social control and domination. The disparity in wealth between Black and White America has a history as long as the relationship between the two groups. Across the country, white Americans benefitted from not being required to pay enslaved Africans for more than four centuries"
Good to know that we didn't have to pay slaves for more than four centuries, despite USA slavery only lasted 245 years (according to a quick Google)! Our nation was only colonized by the British in 1607, meaning that according to this article, slavery was only abolished in 2007. Of course, that leads to the even more unpalatable fact that President George W. Bush is responsible for outlawing slavery. =P
@Jarble That other article also looks pretty opinionated! =) Also, I'm think I'm missing what you are saying - are you saying the claimed "four centuries" is explained in the other article?
ComServant (
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08:28, 22 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Ah, I see, they are taking the start of European enslavement of Africa to the end of United States slave trade to get four centuries, but mis-applying all four centuries to the United States directly ("White Americans ['in the United States', as previously mentioned] benefited from four centuries..."), and broadly applying it to everyone who lived in the United States, whereas obviously the economic gain of Slavery benefited some areas more than others - primarily (but not exclusively) the South, of which any economic benefit was destroyed during the Civil War, where the South had pretty much suffered economically. So, despite the economic gain being mostly destroyed, the gain is being applied to areas like the modern-day wealth of California, which is highly speculative. Anyways, my point is opinions in the article are being treated like facts, and viewpoints are being implanted in the article through phrasing and word choices.
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09:30, 22 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Hi all. I will be expanding the article on occupational segregation in the next few months and will add a link to it in the occupational distribution disparities section of this page. Since currently
Occupational segregation only talks about gender segregation, I will make the page more relevant to this article and discuss causes and effects, as well as possible solutions to racial occupational segregation. If you have any questions, feel free to check out my user page or sandbox! -
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Study Reliable?
In Section Specific Groups In Subsection African American
In Paragraph 6, Sentence 6.
It States "When no factors other than race are considered"
Wouldn't excluding factors other than race make this study unreliable?
What does the rest of the paragraph say? Hint: this is called controlling for various factors. It's how scientists figure out which factors are determinative.
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00:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
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