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Question: does the 1993 spelling reform by the Romanian Academy (changing î to â) apply in Moldova? I'm not sure if this is relevant, but let's think this over before deciding on a title.
Biruitorul (
talk)
17:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Its not relevant. Wikipedia records information as it is, not as it ought to be. The reality of the situationis that Transdnistria is not under Moldova's administration, and certainly not subject to anything the Romanian Academy does.--
mrg3105 (
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03:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Do they call it "Ribnita" or "Rybnitsa"? Moreover, the fact that no one recognises Transnistria does complicate the situation, and means we should perhaps take into account the view of the Chişinău government as well. (Given that the town has no common English name, it's bound to be that or Tiraspol.)
Biruitorul (
talk)
04:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)reply
User:Danutz has explained to me
[2] in December that the Moldovan (not Romanian) Academy instructs (since 2007) to use â. With all due respect, mrg3105, but Moldovan Academy has jurisdiction on the territory of Moldova. I assume, in practice the transition from î to â would be gradual, and there will be no particular fuss if one uses on or the other. Look at Romania, even 10+ years later, there are still people that use î. Personally, I don't see a disagreement between mine and Xasha variant - it is just a matter of taste. De gustibus non disputandum were wisely remarking the Romans. If it comes to that, we can just throw a coin.
Dc76\talk14:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Moldova's official language is Moldovan, and the Academy of Science of Moldova has no power over the Moldovan language. That link proves that the Romanian language in Moldova uses â, not that the state language uses it. Just search all laws approved after 2001 (the date of that book), and you'll see none uses â, except when talking about Romania and derivatives.
Xasha (
talk)
20:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)reply
How can the Academy of Science have nothing to do with the usage of the Molodvan/Romanian languagage in the country? Think better, it becomes ridiculous, with all due respect. I said 2007, if you observed.
Dc76\talk20:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Show me an act of the Moldovan government that says Moldovan is regulated. The book that editor used as source is from 2001, so how come you came to the conclusion that such thing was adopted in 2007? Please, find a 2008 law that uses â.
Xasha (
talk)
21:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)reply
The Moldovan government sites use both spellings, sometimes in the same document:
Pe dimensiunea activitatii legislative mentionez, in primul rand, ca Programul calendaristic in contextul cooperarii cu Consiliul Europei a fost, practic, realizat, ramanand o singura restanta care se refera la Codul Educatiei. Sper foarte mult ca acest document, deosebit de important pentru sustinerea dezvoltarii in continuare a sistemului educational, va fi, totusi, prezentat Parlamentului pentru examinare si adoptare.
but only a few paragraphs later:
Nu in ultimul rind vreau sa pun in evidenta ca, pe durata acestei sesiuni, vom incepe un proiect de infratire, de colaborare interparlamentara pe dimensiune europeana, avind ca parteneri parlamentele Frantei si Ungariei.
Ok, I moved this page a little too earlier. Let them get used to the "new" spelling, and in 6-12 months, we'll move it back. :
Dc76\talk00:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Currently, the city is legally in Moldova. And that is recognized by the Russian Federation, as well. What holds the future is indeed a different question.
Dc76\talk21:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)reply
The official Moldavian legislation provides for Rybnitsa
The official Moldavian legislation, Law on Functionig of languages and specifically the 2005 Law on Transnistria clearly establish Russian and Ukrainian as two of the four official languages in Moldova. Taking in consideration the majority of population in Rybnitsa is composed of Russian or Ukrainian speaking Moldavians, and most importantly the 2005 law on Transnistria which also gives the three of langauges "state language" qualification, the correct spelling in English is Rybnitsa.
According to the page, the coordinates are: ______ N and _____ W. In fact, they should be ____N, _____E but i dont know how to what to edit that sort of thing. Can someone please help?--
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12:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)reply
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Åttiotrean 226, please stop removing the Romanian name. It is a historical name of a population that for sure at least used to live there no matter what do modern censuses say. This is enough for Wikipedia's naming conventions for a name to be kept and is precisely the reason why we have a Yiddish name. The controversy regarding the ethnicity and language of Moldovans also adds to the name's relevancy. You also broke, again, the
WP:3RR rule. You can undo this by reverting your fourth revert and it will be if as nothing happened.
SuperΨDro14:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
You continuously reverted your own edits and proceeded with accusing me of the same thing after I have to clean up after you. I did not want to bring it up again (as you accused me of following you the last times I pointed it out), but I apparently have to tell you: stop it! You should have taken it to the talk page the first time I took issue with your edit, but you did not; instead you reverted over and over again, seemingly only to prove a point. Why? What is the point of this?
Furthermore: no, I do not think the Romanian name is relevant. If you want to reintroduce it, I would suggest that you also bring with you a source showing that the town has a Romanian population or that it previously had one. I want an encyclopedia that is based on good sources. I cannot see that the Romanian name is relevant in this case, but if you want to start a discussion about it, it is fine by me. I will have to adapt if more users agree with you. I am prepared to change my view, but I believe unsourced information does lower the quality of the article (and I think you agree about that). Åttiotrean226☭15:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
There! I reverted my last edit, despite the fact that it was you who introduced the new information the last time. It is of course completely wrong; you should have been the one reverting your edits before, but I let you have your way! I fear that I will get more accusations if I am not careful. Åttiotrean226☭15:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Newspapers using name of Râbnița:
[5][6][7][8][9]. These are all Moldovan newspapers, some notable enough as to have their own Wikipedia page. Be also aware that there's a Romanian-language school in the city (or was at least, I wouldn't be surprised if the Transnistrian government already closed it)
[10]. I imagine it wasn't there just to decorate the street, right?
SuperΨDro14:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I am not. I do not understand anything. I reverted my edit for one purpose: the fear that you will once again accuse me of being unfair to you. I followed the rules and you did not; yet I am the one feeling that I have to accept what you did, lest I once again will be accused of something. At this point, I am even afraid to warn you or use words like “disruptive” or “edit warring”. Åttiotrean226☭16:15, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I wouldn't revert my edit if I felt so confident about it being right, so I think you know it really isn't too much. By the way, it's ironic that you are saying all of this when you left three warnings in my talk page. And if you don't understand anything, consider reading
WP:3RR and
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names). If you want to leave me another warning, go ahead. It will help me get more evidence.
SuperΨDro15:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply