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The plant traditionally called Quercus × hispanica Lam. (= Q cerris × Q suber) is now renamed Quercus × crenata Lam. The name Quercus × hispanica Lam. is now applied to a different plant: Quercus faginea × Q suber. We already have an article for Quercus × crenata, so there are now two articles for the same hybrid. I therefore propose we merge the two existing articles and have a new one at
Quercus × hispanica for the other hybrid, with a link of course to Quercus × crenata. See
[1] and
[2].
Richard New Forest (
talk)
11:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. It seems that relevant content has already been merged, so all that remains is to write an article about Quercus × hispanica.
Plantdrew (
talk)
16:26, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Richard New Forest and
Plantdrew: the present situation is clearly wrong and needs to be fixed. Plants of the World Online treats Quercus × hispanica Lam. as a synonym of Quercus × crenata Lam., so the nothospecies traditionally known as Q. × hispanica should, I think, be treated at Quercus × crenata, as seems to have happened. However, it seems that what is really a synonym of Quercus × crenata is not the true Quercus × hispanica Lam. but "Quercus × hispanica auctorum" [but using this full name would be
WP:OR because I can't find it in any of the relevant articles]. Vázquez Pardo et al. (2018), referenced in
Quercus × crenata and online
here, says that origin of the true Quercus × hispanica Lam. is "Q. tlemcenensis Trab. x Q. suber L." (bottom of p. 25). However, PoWO treats Q. tlemcenensis as Quercus × tlemcenensis, a hybrid of Q. canariensis × Q. faginea, apparently based on
this paper, pp. 20–21. This would mean that the true Quercus × hispanica is the triple hybrid (Q. canariensis × Q. faginea) × Q. suber, for which there's no direct source.
So the issue is what to do with this article:
Just redirect to
Quercus × crenata, based on PoWO, and the idea that at least "Quercus × hispanica auctorum" is actually Q. × crenata.
Attempt to write up what I've summarized above – but this would be based on primary sources and some synthesis.