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Kunafa and Qatayef are just as Egyptian as they are Shami
I have read articles that place the origins of these desserts in the kitchens of the Fatimids[1] and of Sultan Saladin in Egypt. I have also seen articles that place them in Halab and others that place them in Ottoman Turkey or even Ottoman Greece. Until someone provides factual evidence as to where these desserts were originally developed, any chronological reference in the article is unjustified. —Preceding
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98.194.124.102 (
talk)
02:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Are "Qatayef" and "
Qata'if" the same thing? If so, can someone maybe mention this early in this article? Or at least take a second to make a new entry for "Qata'if" consisting of just this one line: #REDIRECT [[Qatayef]] ...pretty please?
Sean M. Burke (
talk)
08:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Amira's pantry is a blog that advertises Amazon products. Thisweekinpalestine is a self-described promotional source to "promote" palestine (that is different from a respected advocacy organization like HRW). It is not a good sign for reliability when typos like "ngredients" are not fixed. I would not consider these to be reliable sources by Wikipedia's standards.
Spudlace (
talk)
01:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Global voices was
recently discussed on RSN and found to be reliable. This Week in Palestine is a monthly magazine that has been in print since 1998. I'm fairly sure they are both RS. Amira's pantry is indeed a recipes blog. The site looks professional to me though.
ImTheIP (
talk)
01:26, 30 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Oh right, global voices. I don't think a discussion of three participants means that it was found to be reliable. We can discuss it again, if you want. I find points of agreement with both sides, there is a UGC feel to the blog posts (like the one cited in this article), but they may have better, more reliable content as well. However, I don't think it was reliable the way it was used in this article.
Mauritania is in the Arab World and it's not known for this dish. What are the other citations for? If they are just spam they should be removed.
Spudlace (
talk)
01:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)reply
GlobalVoices was found to be generally reliable on RSN, but it may be more productive to discuss the claim in question than to restart that process. There are other sources that claim that Qatayef is eaten across the Arab world;
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5], and
[6]. Do you have sources that indicate that its spread is limited to the Levant and Egypt?
Amira's pantry was the only source for the lead sentence so it should stay until a stronger source can be found. The claim the source supports is anyway not controversial.
Even the source you cited says "Al Qatayef is one of the famous Arab sweets, which is considered to be associated with Ramadan. And spread mainly in the Levant".
Spudlace (
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13:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)reply
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