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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Park, Meadhbh (2022). "Fight Club: Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys, and Male Supremacism". In Carian, Emily K.; DiBranco, Alex; Ebin, Chelsea (eds.). Male Supremacism in the United States: From Patriarchal Traditionalism to Misogynist Incels and the Alt-Right. Abingdon, England: Routledge. doi: 10.4324/9781003164722. ISBN 978-1-0005-7622-1.

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Section sizes

Section size for Proud Boys (47 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	27,857	27,857
History and organization	24,253	61,681
Membership and doctrine	8,222	8,994
Gender and sexuality	772	772
Leadership	9,528	9,528
Connection with Roger Stone	8,438	8,438
2020 presidential debate	7,393	7,393
Foreign disinformation during the 2020 presidential campaign	3,075	3,075
Activities and events	104	56,709
2017–2018	16,418	16,418
2018 Metropolitan Republican Club Incident	1,981	13,382
Protestors	1,848	1,848
Incident	5,726	5,726
Aftermath	3,827	3,827
2019 Demand Free Speech rally	3,599	3,599
End Domestic Terrorism rally 2019	4,841	4,841
2020 COVID-19 misinformation	3,883	3,883
Anti-BLM protests	7,033	7,033
2020 church attacks	7,449	7,449
Participation in the January 6 United States Capitol attack	26,996	62,830
Indictments for conspiracy	28,171	28,171
Convictions for seditious conspiracy	7,663	7,663
Post-2021 actions	24	9,528
Alabama	2,870	2,870
Portland, Oregon march	2,178	2,178
Florida	1,392	1,392
California	1,676	1,676
Split with neo-Nazis	779	779
Trump conviction	609	609
Response	15	19,726
Government	19	12,676
United States	1,980	1,980
Canada	9,625	9,625
New Zealand	1,052	1,052
Southern Poverty Law Center lawsuit	4,496	4,496
Lawsuits	2,379	2,379
Social media bans	160	160
Subgroups	16	1,444
Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights	400	400
Canadian chapters	1,028	1,028
Symbolism	1,422	10,994
Association with Fred Perry clothing	4,776	4,776
MAGA hats	2,023	2,023
6MWE	2,773	2,773
See also	218	218
References	30	30
External links	1,926	1,926
Total	252,943	252,943

Jack Buckby and Proud Boys in the UK

There was a short-lived UK division of Proud Boys. This is documented on Jack Buckby's article with a source and can be included on the Proud Boys article. 2A00:23C6:C022:C701:904E:8571:793:B0EA ( talk) 13:21, 25 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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