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News is already making rounds of people planning to protest the child internment after the Executive Order yesterday. When we cover those it may not be appropriate to cover that here because it would no longer be separation being protested (except of course for the continued separation of those already separated yet to be reunited) and rather about the idea of interning children via the defense department (jail adjacent) as opposed to DHHS.
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Oppose The title of the program is an invented Orwellian marketing vehicle. What the public and certainly the victims of the policy know it for is the family separation aspect. The title may simply be the name (or a name) of the subject of the article, or it may be a description of the topic.Generally, article titles are based on what the subject is called in reliable sources. OK, here are some
WP:RS[1]Time[2]USA Today[3]Washington Post Need I go on? There are plenty of sources.
Trackinfo (
talk)
09:08, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
That seems to be an example of
WP:CHERRYPICKING. While it is true that it is named as the "Family Separation Policy" in multiple articles, it is referred to as the "Zero Tolerance Policy" in others, including some from the same source. For instance:
WP:RS[4]CNN[5]Politico[6]Washington Post. Given that there is significant coverage using both terms, it is our responsibility to decide which name more accurately reflects Wikipedia's status as an encyclopedia, and here it is policy to use the official and more neutral name.
NoCOBOL (
talk)
09:34, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose - The current title reflects the main article, for which I also opposed a similar title change. The current title is more recognizable. The current title meets
WP:COMMONNAME and is suitably neutral. Families were indeed separated, and it was
intentional -
MrX 🖋
13:25, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose. The title of the article
Trump administration family separation policy is a contentious issue, so per
WP:NDESC, non-neutral but common names [...] may be used within a descriptive title, and the title of this article should reflect the title of that article. I supported changing the title of that article two times, one of those was in a requested move that I started myself, but many editors cited Democrat talking points so the requested moves failed quickly. I expect many more similarly partisan arguments here so this RM will definitely fail – please withdraw your RM, thank you. wumbolo^^^15:51, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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