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Merge Proposal and / or
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The result of the request for the Proposed Merger was:
This article is well written overall, despite some boosterism in the "Growth and Change" section. However, I don't believe this one extracurricular activity at one university is notable enough for a standalone article. The notability guideline for organizations focuses on the level of coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Most of the coverage here is from the student newspaper and the alumni magazine, neither of which operates at arm's length. The other sources seem only to mention it in passing while discussing other subjects, which falls short of the requirement that the coverage be significant.
I'll reiterate that it's well written, and it's well referenced as far as it goes. I don't think deleting the content outright would serve Wikipedia well. Instead I'd like to propose merging it selectively to another article whose notability is not in doubt. History of Princeton University seems appropriate, but I could be persuaded to support other destinations, as well. Lagrange 613 08:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I appreciate the feedback on the article. On the question of notability I would respond that the Princeton Evangelical Fellowship rises to at least the same level of notability of other institutions found in the categories for Buildings and structures in Princeton, New Jersey and Non-profit organizations based in Princeton, New Jersey. It's true that there are no book length treatments of the subject but the PEF is credited by multiple notable figures, including John Whitcomb and John Frame as a primary influence in their own lives. The PEF is also notable, as referenced in one of the books cited, as a precursor to other national para-church collegiate ministries such as Campus Crusade for Christ. My response to the question of merging with the History of Princeton University is to note that the PEF is a separate organization, such as McCarter Theatre, though recognized by the University and certainly part of its history. djkeddie User talk:djkeddie 12:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
A significant treatment of the PEF by a notable source comes from John Frame's article Remembering Donald B. Fullerton. Why would local newspapers not be arms length? Why does McCarter Theatre have greater profile? It seems to have similar treatment in book sources and without being credited as a crucial influence in the life of multiple notable figures as is the PEF. My first article, Stone Hill Church of Princeton gained approval through submission to Articles for Creation which is why I added this article without going through that process. My intention is to go through the articles covering Princeton local and University subjects and seek to improve them, but I am at present uncertain about the criteria of notability. Djkeddie ( talk) 00:37, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Under Wikipedia:Notability_(local_churches_and_other_religious_congregations) guideline six reads: "The congregation has, or has had, notable leaders or clergy, for whom the particular church has had a formative impact. For a church to fit into this category, the leader should be notable enough to meet WP:BIO, by non-trivial external coverage, and should have their own article. The involvement of the church in the person's life must not be trivial, and should be significantly discussed in their biography.4" John Frame and John Whitcomb both fit this precisely, mentioning in their biographies decades on from their time in the PEF that it played a crucial role in setting them on the path that would lead to their notable contributions. The notability of a religious organization lies in its ability to influence members in a dramatic way. Frame himself points out that he's had no further interaction with the PEF since his time as a student over 50 years ago and yet credits it as a central influence. Also, Wikipedia:Notability_(local_interests), clearly would allow for an organization such as the PEF to be notable. That proposal failed primarily because it was viewed as too deletionist and yet even by its standards PEF would be notable. The local sources I have cited, The Daily Princetonian, and The Town Topics, are reliable sources at arms length from the subject. Their coverage starts in the 1930s and provides non-trivials articles over the decades. ""John Whitcomb and is a major figure in young earth creationism, which is a movement that has affected millions of people and public policy down to the present. He credits his life work as starting with the PEF. John Frame is a major figure in Reformed theology, affecting a movement of millions of people, and credits the PEF as the most important time in his spiritual development. PEF is notable by virtue of being a primary influence on multiple notable figures. In addition PEF has notability in local reliable sources which in and of itself should be sufficient following the widely accepted practices of Wikipedia. Djkeddie ( talk) 14:28, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
In pursuit of consensus I've sought additional input at WP:Proposed mergers and WP:WikiProject Universities. Lagrange 613 20:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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