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Neither of the references above meet our criteria at
WP:RS, and I've also removed the aeterna one from Titanic. There are good sources though, eg
[1],
[2] (search it), a really good one here I think for the whole article
[3], and of course The Wreck of the Titanic foretold? Martin Gardner. These are the sort of references we should have, and we should show various viewpoints to meet
WP:NPOV, especially on a
WP:FRINGE subject.
Dougweller (
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Ost316: I don't get why you'd think people would be confused by a soft redirect to wiktionary. I thought people who were able to navigate an English-language website would understand how to click a link, even if they weren't willing, but may not notice the Wiktionary link on the disambiguation page for the list of links to media that the eye more naturally follows.
My confusion is partially due to the fact that my eyes habitually goes down the list more naturally than to the box to the top right, where Wiktionary is linked. I have to actively look for the wiktionary link to notice it. Your average Wikipedia reader isn't going to know where to look.
I dream of horses(Contribs)(Talk)22:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)reply
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I dream of horses:If you believe that this redirect is not appropriate to go to the disambiguation page, then you can nominate it at
redirects for discussion, but this is usually how ambiguous words are handled. It it general practice to have redirects go to a Wikipedia page when a reasonable target exists, rather than linking to another site. The harm isn't that the users have to click another link to follow the soft redirect, but that they do not get informed about other topics with the same title. Users may not know to look at
Premonitions (disambiguation) if the main word doesn't redirect there, so when they link
Premonition intending to link it to a film or a horse, they won't be get the bot notification that they linked an ambiguous term or know that there are over a dozen other articles about topics known as Premonition.
As for the placement of the Wikitionary link on disambiguation pages, that is prescribed in the Manual of Style at
MOS:WTLINK. If you think that these links should be handled differently or be in a different location on the page, then it should be addressed at
WP:MOSDAB. I'm used to using disambiguation pages, so I am used to looking in the upper right corner for Wiktionary links. —
Ost (
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23:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)reply