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The result was: promoted by Bruxton  talk  00:50, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• ... that a patch of mud was a deciding factor in one Potteries derby football match? Source: Bullock, Liam (2023). El Ceramico: The Story of the Potteries Derby. Pitch. p. 78. ISBN  978-1-80150-393-8.
  • ALT1: ... that one Potteries derby game was decided by a goal scored in the opening 12 seconds of the match? Source: Bullock, Liam (2023). El Ceramico: The Story of the Potteries Derby. Pitch. p. 115. ISBN  978-1-80150-393-8.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Andreas Kieber

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe ( talk). Self-nominated at 14:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Potteries derby; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page. reply

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - Some of the wording sounds far too much like what a stereotypical sportswriter would write, rather than written in an encyclopedic tone. Examples include "derby saga", "did Vale no favours", "Stoke boss Guðjón Þórðarson had his eyes on promotion", etc.

Overall: AGF on offline sources; ALT1 is the easier one to cite (presumably), but needs its citation moved to the same sentence to comply with DYK guidelines. Sounder Bruce 07:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC) reply

What do you mean "needs its citation moved to the same sentence"? Echetus Xe 12:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Looks like this was removed from the DYK guidelines somewhat recently. Normally hooks in the prose had to have a citation placed as closely as possible to make it easier to verify. I can approve this once some copyediting is done. Sounder Bruce 02:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Okay I've done that now. Thanks. Echetus Xe 08:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The last sentence of the "Keeping apart" section needs major rewriting, and some more problematic phrases remain, such as "scrappy piece of play" and "facing a ducking in the River Trent". The tone is just not befitting of the wider project. Sounder Bruce 04:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I've removed that last sentence as the incident didn't have any lasting significance. I've reworded "facing a ducking". I have kept "scrappy piece of play" in. It seems there is a slight difference in the definition of the word scrappy in American English and British English, but the article is written in British English so the word scrappy is perfectly suitable to the tone of the project. Echetus Xe 10:14, 5 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Sorry, didn't see the update in my watchlist. I guess "scrappy" should be fine in this context, and the article's casual language has been toned down. Approved. Sounder Bruce 04:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply