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this article is biased and partisan, please rewrite it in an unbiased way, serving the truth. Haagsrudent 16:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
If that is your opinion, please explain exactly how you think the article is biased. --- Dagme ( talk) 01:04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Washington Times said:
Oh, and would someone please check the caption on his picture? That's not really Kevin Costner, is it?
Should I move the article to the current redirect title Porter Goss? Everyking 10:23, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Reading the balance of the article from which this is taken, this is not an NPOV source and, in my opinion, should not have its opinion included in this encyclopedic article. I am open to debate on the subject, but will fiercely stand by my removal on the grounds of maintaining Wikipedia's NPOV. Skyler 13:20, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)
I think that this quote: "In an interview on March 3, 2004 Goss described himself as 'Not qualified' for a job within the CIA. (See below)" is not NPOV as it takes the whole statement out of context and it is misleading. Cordell Walker 06:34, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
When writing political entries, I think it is important to remember that not everyone reading them (especially when they are listed on the main page) is going to be familiar with the American political system. Hence, I am reformatting much of the article.
Also, it is important to remember that this is an encyclopedia, meant to last the test of time. Therefore, it is appropriate to write in the past tense.
I am not trying to chastise anyone and I hope this is not taken in that way. I am just adding a helpful reminder. Skyler 12:55, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)
Why was there a link purporting to be to his e-mail address, and who added that link? Something tells me it was either a bad joke or another entry for Wikipedia:Congressional Staffer Edits... Hooker Watergate:
There is discussion that the real reason for his exit is that he MAY be caught up in the Duke Cunningham Watergate Hooker scandal. the preceding unsigned comment was left by User:2006 24.20.248.75 07:47, 6 May (UTC)
I believe this entry is confusing. First it says WS speculates that Goss was fired over a turf war with Negroponte. Then it says they believe he was forced out for "other reasons." Then there is a long quotation part of which is more about Negroponte than Goss. I don't want to delete valid information, but I am not sure all of this is relevant or useful here.-- csloat 19:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
{insert after "some very interesting moments in the Florida Straits":} A photograph taken January 22, 1962 in Mexico City appears to show Goss at a table with CIA gun-runner and drug-runner Barry Seal and other members of the CIA's assassination squad named " Operation 40." {link to source:} http://www.madcowprod.com/index.html, http://www.madcowprod.com/new_page_8.htm
Under: "Resignation Controversy" " ...noting that employees with a combined 300 years of experience have left or been pushed out." This "quote" seems to mean nothing, as 1) I cannot seem to find it mentioned in the source and 2) If 3600 people who had each been working for a month left.. that makes 300 years. Its rather vague and non-specific.
All mentions of Foggo have apparently been exised from this article. This make the article incomplete, imho. Many have stated that Goss' appointment of Foggo, and his refusal to fire him, was a contributing factor to Goss' firing. Thoughts anyone? -- Sholom 17:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
The article refers to Goss as having being the appointed as the CIA director. In fact, Goss was Director of Central Intelligence which was a combination of the job of CIA director and of the later-created Director of National Intelligence. The job of CIA director wasn't created until shortly before Goss resigned. While I understand that it's popularly known as CIA director, it simply isn't so. Lordjeff06 ( talk) 22:04, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
It's been three years since the last move discussion on this page, so I'm re-opening in a new section. This article should be moved to Porter Goss ; "Porter Goss" is more commonly used than "Porter J. Goss", and per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) the name should be in first name, last name format, with no middle initial, unless the name with initial is demonstrably more common. Baileypalblue ( talk) 02:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Moved. -- Delirium ( talk) 06:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
This is the closing sentence of the Resignation section:
Was he or is he? Should this be in this section? If it's "was" then it's not very relevant. If it's "is" and should stay, perhaps it should be reworded to say something along the lines of "Since his resignation, Goss has been an active speaker ...." Ileanadu ( talk) 15:35, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Timeline is not very clear. When did the events happen?
A week after what?
In final paragraph it says:
Why include the date for one and not the other? Were they both appointed on 9/14/07? Is this referring to Kappes' more recent appointment along with Leon Panetta in 2009? If so, is it "following Goss's departure" or "since."
Further adding to the confusion regarding the timeline:
The resignations occurred in 2005 (2004, or 2006) but it wasn't known until his reemergence in 2007 or 2009 why he had resigned? I recall contemporaneous reports linking Sulick's and Kappes resignations. Who reported/what's the source?
There's nothing in the section actually about changes other than Goss promised to make changes. It's really talking about personality clashes after Goss came in. Is the point that he was unable to make changes? Were any changes made? If so, what?
In the 3rd paragraph where the personality clashes are first described, it says:
We're including rumors? Without a source? Reported by whom? Citations?
Apparently we also know what was going on in the actor's minds:
I only have a cursory knowledge about these events and the CIA in general; otherwise I'd make changes instead of just criticizing. Ileanadu ( talk) 16:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
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