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The internal clock has not been removed from Ruby and Sapphire. At the begining of the game you set the clock's time. It is just that the night and day effects don't happen anymore. The clock is used to determine when can do events that can be used only once per day, (like the pokémon lotto in the mall) and Pokémon that evolve only during the day and/or night (i.e.
Umbreon and
Espeon). Try to get your facts straight.
Greyhead13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC) P.S. Don't take this to hard guysreply
Not to mention making the Berry trees progressively grow over time, and killing the berry growth and other key events after one year! Unless you patched it of course. I've reworded it now, but you could have done that yourself... remember,
be bold!
Master Thief Garrett11:36, 11 May 2005 (UTC)reply
Reference to Wikipedia in Ruby/Sapphire?
I just looked on
[1], and there is an item called Wiki Berry. The description is "When held, 1/8 HP recovers when HP is below half, but Confusion occurs for Pokemon that are Adamant, Impish, Jolly, or Careful." --
pile0nades 01:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've rewritten this section, citing sources. (I also put the sales numbers up front; does anyone think it's POV to mention the fact that it's the bestselling GBA game ever before the fact that some Pokémon fans kvetched that a feature or two was removed or that Snorunt's design is dumb?) I had to cut a lot of it as entirely unsourced; can someone cite sources for some of the old criticism and replace it? -
A Man In Black (
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05:01, 29 September 2005 (UTC)reply
Most of it is what I have personally read on boards - one topic blasting R/S cited that the Snornut evolution ws nonsensical. To a certain degree, this is true. I mean, I can see how Blissey/Chansey evolves, but Snornut/Glalie although not as verifable or NPOV as the example you rewrote (about Beautify/Butterfree). The emphasis I had when initially wrtiting the section was just about the games themselves, not about public response in general, which is why I wrote about Pokemon Box, modern Pokemon mechanics, etc. Of course, being a good Wikipedian (and having a good article) means verifable and citable sources, which I generally haven't done much of.
I see that the section on "hailed as the modern Pokemon games" bit has been removed. I suppose that falls under review and not under encyclopedia article domain.
Hbdragon8806:06, 7 October 2005 (UTC)reply
Berry glitch
Someone suggested that the Berry glitch section should be removed from Wikipedia. I think that it should either be moved into its own article or merged into a glitch page with the other glitches. There are seven "notable glitches" in Wikipedia right now (see {{Pokémon glitches}}), two of which are stubs, and half of which shouldn't be on Wikipedia if the Berry glitch section wasn't. —
SheeEttin {
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20:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Perhaps it should just be mentioned here with a link to its own article. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
201.17.45.166 (
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I'm sorry, but it's one of the fake versions floating around out there. It's not official, endorsed or published by Nintendo, and not worth including in the article. Sorry.
Rai18:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't think that the "berry glitch" is a glitch, per se. I thought it was just that the internal clock broke/ran out of batteries after a year. Correct me if I'm wrong. ~ Flameviper17:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)reply
ok. some one thought it would be funny to replace this page with. "lol. pokemon pwns. hahahah." not funny. dude just leave pages alone. Someone obviously time on thier hands and then used it to create this page so people could see it. deleting it is just rude. anyways.. the page will have to be fixed.. —The preceding
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Lgroskau (
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23:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC).reply
Don't Delete, Move!
The part about the berry glitch should probably be moved to the notable pokemon glitches page, because it is notable, and is a glitch like all the others. It doesn't make much sense to not move it.
Zivlok00:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)reply
box showing other games
well someone wrote some random things at the top and bottem of the page so I fixed it but could someone please put the box that shows the other games back up--
Crypto 13800:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)reply
Some idiot thought it was funny to stupify, vandalise, and make fun of Shigeru Myamoto's name into Shigeki Morimoto in here And Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald/FireRed/LeafGreen articles. Someone fix this please. cant remember how his last name is spelled :(
172.162.150.5304:34, 5 August 2007 (UTC)reply
Bulba is Creative Commons, we are GFDL, and you can't mix the licenses together (I think you may be able to go GFDL > CC, but not the other way around). Second, the whole lot of it is
original research that is not backed by a
reliable, third-party source. Third, none of it is cited. What article, edition of NP did they state Shellos was dev'd for R/S/E?
hbdragon88 (
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22:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)reply
Yeah, sorry, we can't source what you think is "common knowledge." If Nintendo Power really DID say that (well, I know they did, but) then we need the actual issue of the magazine.—
Loveはドコ? (
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00:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)reply
WTF do you people want, i gave you what you wanted now you tell me that i have to tell you the page number, fuck that, its on other pages of this site without that shit--Blue-EyesGold Dragon01:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)reply
Sorry for bringing up this old topic, but he's actually right. Shellos and Gastrodon(it's evolution) were found in the game's code. They even had back sprites, but no front sprites. Anyway, it's currently irrelevant, so I'll it for now.
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23:30, 28 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Image copyright problem with Image:Brendan May Emerald.PNG
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Moving Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire to Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald
I think since this article covers all three games completely (as the Emerald article was turned into a redirect) that it should appropriately be named
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. This honestly seems pretty straightforward to me. Besides, R/B's article does not FULLY cover Yellow and FR/LG, as those both have main articles, where as Emerald does not. Thoughts?
But the question is, what do we do if they are merged? At worst, it'd be "Pokémon Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, FireRed, and LeafGreen", at best, it would be "Pokémon Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow". While Emerald is covered, it doesn't have to be in the title - for instance, Kirby Super Star covers the DS remake, but is simply Kirby Super Star, not Kirby Super Star and Hoshi no Kirby Ultra Super Deluxe. -
A Link to the Past(talk)20:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)reply
It will most likely be Pokémon Red, Blue, and, Yellow; because Green is Japanese, and FR and LG are much too different. And still I see no reason why it shouldn't be Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald; the Kirby article doesn't name both of the games because then the title would be extremely repetitive (Kirby Super Star and Hoshi no Kirby Ultra Super Deluxe.) But in this case, we are simply adding one more word. Artichoker[talk]21:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)reply
But we don't need to add one more word. Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire are the original works, and Emerald is an additional work added on later. Emerald, unlike Ruby and Sapphire, is given its own section, making it more or less "unequal". -
A Link to the Past(talk)21:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Actually it doesn't, they are grouped together (i.e. Reception of both games is in one section, plot of both games is in one section, etc.) Check and confirm if I am correct. Artichoker[talk]23:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)reply
No, my point is, that the header was not the only thing that distinguished between whether they were separate or not (if that's what you meant.) Artichoker[talk]00:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)reply
I get your point. But the differences section talks specificly about the changes in Emerald, so why not make a subsection called "Changes from older games" and "Changes from Emerald"?
TheBlazikenMaster (
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00:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)reply
I know exactly what this discussion needs, more people. I agree with the title change too, but there aren't enough people here currently to discuss this. And it's hard to tell which Wikipedians are Pokémon fans since most Wikipedians edit all sorts of articles.
TheBlazikenMaster (
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00:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)reply
I continue to maintain that the conventions should stick to calling the articles by the original two English names, that they are the original games and are, by default of that fact, are more significant to the article (and it's reflected - Emerald always takes backseat). Besides, it's also got searchability to consider - will people think to search for Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald? -
A Link to the Past(talk)01:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)reply
I have to agree with ALttP on this. Remakes don't generally get name space for video games. Just by way of example, Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ has info on the KHII and the KH:CoM articles, but isn't reflected in the names of those articles. A search for the updated version takes you to the appropriate section of the KHII article. That's just an example, but it seems the most appropriate. Putting every single remake or re-release in the article title would lead to clutter.
Onikage725 (
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No, you can't travel there. From
Hoenn, the player can never travel to
Kanto,
Johto, or
Sinnoh, and visa-verse. Therefore, in the video games (we are not talking about the anime here), Hoenn would be considered its own world to the average person. Artichoker[talk]19:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Whether Pokémon transportable or not is irrelevant to whether something is considered a region or a world. Hoenn is both a region and a world in the video games, so mentioning that it is a world is acceptable. Artichoker[talk]19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)reply
I get your point. I'm such a big Pokémon fan that I didn't think Hoenn could be a world as well, and still don't. I respect that in video games what a "world" is is different from reality (and I consider the anime reality), but I still don't understand. Nevertheless, I will leave this alone as I don't believe in edit wars, and respect your views on this. Yes, I got nothing else to add to this discussion.
TheBlazikenMaster (
talk)
19:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)reply
The chnages are so minor, and without a lot of commentry attached to them, that I don't think we could justify adding the image. We can most definitely link to them though. I'm glad they were kind of "maturing," or just knowing that they were screwing us over with the GBC to GBA transition (can only catch 200/386 until FR/LG).
hbdragon88 (
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18:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)reply
or just knowing that they were screwing us over with the GBC to GBA transition No, they had their reasons for not letting GBA be tradable with the older versions. Natures affect every single Pokémon, do you really think it would be possible to trade Pokémon with nature to older games without nature without getting your game screwed?
TheBlazikenMaster (
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19:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)reply
I know about the technical reasons. I'm just saying that it would be deceptive to say "gotta catch 'em all" when about 180 Pokemon are not, actually, catchable. They managed to retain compatibility when G/S/C came out, so they could say that then (as well as creating a generation of whiners when R/S came out and their lack of backwards compatibility). Actually, it seems to be a permanent shift away from that slogan, seeing as FR/LG and D/P don't feature it.
hbdragon88 (
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20:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Going back on topic, I wouldn't be against a mention. Probably just something like "the cover art for the English-language games underwent several minor changes; these included a change in the background pattern, and the removal of the "Gotta Catch Them All" slogan", with both articles referenced for comparison.
MelicansMatkin (
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21:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)reply
The third sentence of the second sentence needs a cite. Done
I suggest that the lead be re-organized in the following way: Paragraph 1 deals with names, release dates, who made it (development), etc. Paragraph 2 deals with Gameplay. Paragraph 3 deals with Critical Reception and sales Done
"selling millions of copies to become the best-selling games ever for the Game Boy Advance" needs a cite.
The third sentence of the first paragraph needs a cite. Done
"-this is done by raising Poke'mon, defeating the Eight Gym Leaders for Gym Badges, and eventually challenging the Elite Four and the champion" that statement needs a cite. Done
Comments on the Gameplay section
The first sentence of the second paragraph needs a cite.
This is already cited by the reference at the end of the paragraph.
Comments on the New Features section
Try to clarify the caption of the image. It's a bit confusing. Done
Comments on the Connectivity with other devices section
The second sentence of the first paragraph needs a cite. Done
The second sentence of the second paragraph needs a cite. Done
Comments on the Development section
The first sentence of the second paragraph needs a cite.
This is already cited by the reference at the end of the paragraph.
The third sentence of the thrid paragraph needs a cite.
This is already cited by the reference at the end of the paragraph.
The first and second sentences of the third paragraph needs cites.
This is already cited by the reference at the end of the paragraph.
The first and second sentences of the last paragraph needs cites.
This is already cited by the reference at the end of the paragraph.
It would be nice to see this article become an FA (WP's first Pokemon-related FA!), but I know from experience that prose is probably one of the biggest hurdles in the process, so I'm thinking a peer review is in order. If anyone is planning to put this up for FA candidacy some day, then a peer review can't hurt; even if no one is planning to make this an FA...it still can't hurt.
Also, since this article relies heavily on web sources, I would suggest that someone archive the pages at
Webcitation. (I'll try to work on it, but in case I don't have the time, hopefully someone else can take care of it.)
Ink Runner (
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00:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)reply
It probably is indictive of age, but I can remember when Bulbasaur and Torchic used to be our proudest articles, FA-quality ones...before the mergers happened. The primary architect, HighwayCello, has been gone for 23 months...approching two years on 7 November.
hbdragon88 (
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02:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm taking the article to peer review because, well, I think it's pretty close to FA-quality, but what do I know? If it isn't, the peer review should fix that.
I would appreciate a section opened for both the Ruby and Sapphire versions featuring the brass section theme music. Many different scores are included in the games e. g. when a wild Pokemon battle starts or when a gym leader battle commences. Also towns have their own songs and different styles of routes include background music. Thank you [User:Alex Bieser|Alex Bieser] Nov 14 08. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
75.4.158.54 (
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23:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)reply
Which box art?
According to a comment in peer review, the article should only use one of the box art. Since (I think) they're both pretty much equal, I guess it boils down to...which one's cooler looking? :P
David Fuchs said that
Oracle of Seasons isn't actually a good FA to emulate, since it has an overuse of non-free images; but you're right, Ruby's boxart should probably stay since 1) it's title comes first and 2) Groudon is on the cover of the soundtrack.
Ink Runner (
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17:51, 26 November 2008 (UTC)reply
Um, why are the references listed under "Notes"? And what are those four thingys under the "References" section? They look like orphaned references to me. I'm very confused! -
Sesu Prime (
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01:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The "Notes" section is basically references, and some of them correspond to the literature in the "References" section (such as ref 4.) Artichokertalk20:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)reply
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I have a copy of Famitsu magazine that shows scores of 9, 8, 8, and 9. By my count, 9+8+8+9=34, not 33 as reported by The Escapist. The magazine I have is an anniversary collection of many reviews reprinted in 2006 and so I suppose there may have been an error on Famitsu's part in transferring the numbers from the 1999 review to their 2006 anniversary issue, but then again it could just as easily be The Escapist's error. I guess finding an actual 1999 copy of Famitsu would be the way to solve this question, but I thought I should bring it up here before making any changes. What do people here think should be done? -
Thibbs (
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13:47, 11 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Per
this discussion, I've gone ahead and exchanged the Escapist-reported score for the one from Famitsu. To what extent the Escapist source can be used for other claims in the article is not something I'm prepared to address at the moment, but just so it's not lost, I'll shift it into talk below:
Should an obvious joke be called an erroneous statement?
Under Pokémon Emerald, it says Nintendo Power erroneously reported that sales of the game would exceed the value of an actual emerald the size of Neptune. That's obviously a joke, so shouldn't it say they jokingly said that? --
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