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I'm not sure we need to mention the "refined" pie rule since AFAICT that phraseology is only used in the Orbit rules. Elsewhere on the web it looks normal that there may be n moves before the swap can be used - Orbit just allows passing in some of those moves. Kevin Saff 22:34, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
To answer your comment, 16 years later, the game you refer to is Renju, which has its own Wikipedia page. Yes that protocol is much more involved, although IMO it never needed to be.-- Twixter ( talk) 07:16, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
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-- 146.142.65.208 09:19, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I just looked over the rules to Havannah, both here on Wikipedia and on Ed van Zon's official Havannah website. Nowhere is there any mention of swapping sides.-- Twixter 23:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
perhaps it is worth noting that this 'pie rule" comes up as early as the ancient greek myth of Prometheus: the gods have the people divide the slaughtered cow into two piles and the gods get to chose one of the divided piles to be sacrificed to them and the other pile is left to the people to eat. 89.134.199.32 ( talk) 20:09, 15 September 2019 (UTC).