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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that distinguishing science from non-science is an unsolved problem in the philosophy of science, so an "
I know it when I see it" standard is sometimes used to recognize
pseudoscience?
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Relational frame theory
This paragraph on philosophy of psychology seems out of place to me. It would appear to be a niche issue with adherents among a small contingent of psychotherapists, and is not warranted on the general philosophy of science page. It is difficult to follow and is not referenced.
Perhaps editors on this page prefer to have a long article with many niche components. But I thought I'd flag it and, depending on responses, relegate it to a more specialized page.
Vrie0006 (
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19:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Article issues and classification.
Greetings. I didn't look at the article's history but this article fails the
B-class criteria #1 with "citation needed" tags from 2017 and 2018. There are unsourced sentences and paragraphs and added unsourced sentences after an inline citation. There are also "weasel-worded phrases from October 2017" and 2019. --
Otr500 (
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07:29, 25 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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Delist - complete lack of adequate sourcing, not comprehensive, mostly
WP:OR and
WP:SYNTH. GA criteria 2abc,3ab,4
The history section is mostly factually inaccurate, deficient of even the most important names and details, and should be rewritten entirely.
The claim the philosophy of science begins with Aristotle is both dubious and only cites... Aristotle himself! There are many historical figures you could consider the first "proto-philosopher-of-science" but the actual formal discipline originates in the 19th century so a lack of secondary citations prior to that is patently unacceptable.
The modern section seems to be mostly
WP:OR and focuses on otherwise well-known names in philosophy, again with mostly primary sources cited, and it doesn't even mention
August Comte,
Ernst Mach,
Pierre Duhem who are generally the most influential modern originators of Philosophy of science.
The logical positivism section mostly focuses on the 1930s and implies that
Wittgenstein somehow inspired positivism, despite this being chronologically impossible, as logical positivism originated with Comte. None of the important claims made in that section are cited whatsoever, probably
WP:OR.
Karl Popper, despite being mentioned elsewhere, is completely absent from the history section despite arguably being the most famous philosopher of science of the entire century.
I'm not sure
Thomas Kuhn's section makes sense if you don't already know what a
paradigm shift is, and there's only a single non-primary citation.
The "Continental philosophy" section makes a variety of dubious claims about the lack of relevance of philosophy of science within that tradition, despite many continental philosophers of science (even those mentioned in that section!) that are in other parts of the article. Reads like a
WP:SOAPBOX written by someone with negative associations with the tradition but little knowledge.
The section on reductionism doesn't tell you what reductionism in philosophy of science is, or explain the concept of a hierarchy of sciences (biology is just appied chem, etc..) at all, and then apparently talks about a different, mostly unrelated kind of reductionism in
philosophy of mind, invoking
Dan Dennett.
The
WP:SPINOUTs to particular sciences are weakly cited, which can probably be fortified by citations in those respective articles, but I haven't compared them side-by-side to determine if they agree.
I mostly only skimmed the other sections, but that's not an endorsement of their content, I just think this is probably enough to work with for now.
This is, admittedly, a very broad topic that's difficult to write a comprehensive article on, but we're not dealing with anything close to that here. At a bare minimum some
WP:HQRS that deal with the entire topic of Philosophy of Science as a whole should be consulted, in order to build an outline that can be planned around, the current article is mostly disorganized hunting and pecking for detached quotes from different Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy articles and a few other sources, with the broader picture forgotten.
- car chasm (
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02:15, 22 July 2023 (UTC)reply
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does Bayesian interpretation of Science make sense here?
It is arguable that science operates like a Bayesian process. Although I am not sure about how deep the phil literature about bayes and science goes.
103.171.118.111 (
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15:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)reply