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	Phedina was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones Date Process Result April 11, 2013 Good article nominee Listed April 24, 2013 Featured topic candidate Promoted December 14, 2021 Featured topic removal candidate Demoted
Current status: Delisted good article

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Reviewer: Dana boomer ( talk · contribs) 17:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC) reply

Hi! I'll take this article for review, and should have my full comments up within a day. Dana boomer ( talk) 17:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC) reply

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b ( MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   • Lead, "Both species can be distinguished from other most swallows in their breeding" "other most"? Aaarghh. Fixed Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply
   • Lead, "These martins are be hunted by birds of prey" "are be"? Also, the Predators and prey section doesn't seem to back this statement up, saying that there are no predators for the Brazza's and only a potential predator for the Mascarene. Good spot, removed that phrase Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply
   • Taxonomy - There appears to be two sentences at the end of the first paragraph that are almost complete duplicates of each other. Yes, meant to add the other species' bit, now done Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply
   • Taxonomy, "and the species name refers to the Île de Bourbon" For both species or just one? Clarified Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply
   • Taxonomy, "The Phedina species nest in burrows and therefore belong to the "core martins"." But the Mascarene Martins don't build in burrows, do they? No, changed to make it clear that it's the DNA evidence Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply
   • You mention "nominate subspecies" in several places in the article - can we link this at the first mention, please? Also, perhaps a sentence in the Taxonomy section that discusses that there are two subspecies of the Mascarene would be helpful for readers. Done Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply
   • Description, "from other most swallows" Done Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply
   • Breeding, "although as with all hirundines the chicks" Should hirundines be capitalized? No, "hirundine" is the English word, so not capped, unlike Hirundinidae. It's basically the same as woodpecker instead of Picidae, but less obvious Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a ( reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c ( OR):

   • Cited texts, the Maggs ref (Olive White-Eye Recovery Program Annual Report 2008–09) is deadlinking

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a ( major aspects): b ( focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b ( appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Overall very nice, just a few minor prose issues. I'm placing the review on hold until these can be addressed. Dana boomer ( talk) 19:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC) reply

Hi Dana, thanks for reviewing. I've removed the url from Maggs, it's a RL publication anyway, so it was just a courtesy link. I look forward to your further comments Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:40, 10 April 2013 (UTC) reply

Thanks for review, I hope I got everything Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply

OK, everything looks good, so I am passing the article to GA status. Dana boomer ( talk) 15:38, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply

Thanks again, I'll bundle it up and send it to FTC now Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC) reply