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Its well covered in the scholarship, so you need sources debating it if we want to deconstruct it or better information explaining the process,
Sadads (
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11:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)reply
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Neutrality: Neutrality would like to see more scholarly references. It's true that the end of the Gaddafi period was a civil war with international participation, and the August 2012 peaceful transition of power to the
General National Congress was followed by a gradual (or stochastic) decay into a renewed civil war. I don't see why that would invalidate the peaceful transition that did occur. However, I'm not an academic source on the question. I would propose first creating a Libya-2012 subsection in the body of the article, and if the sourcing is solid enough, decide if it's significant enough for the lead. Dec 2021 will hopefully lead to a second peaceful transition of power, but we'll probably have to wait for political realities and academic sources to decide whether it should be called "second" or not...
Boud (
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21:48, 11 September 2021 (UTC)reply
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GenQuest: Why do you think this is an opinion? It was a widely reported conversation, and continue to be so (that is why the
page keeps getting pageview spikes -- clearly readers are seeking this page as part of their exploration of the recent news. Moreover, there is a whole article on the peaceful transition in the United States:
United_States_presidential_transition -- which is clearly connected. We can certainly tweak language, but these are the widely reported public opinions, not some narrowly scoped POV,
Sadads (
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12:55, 15 November 2020 (UTC)reply
I see no justification to remove the US paragraph, but it was very much making Wikipedia statements about what Wikipedia wants for US democracy. Which is not what Wikipedia is about: Wikipedia is not the citizenry of the USA. I had a quick go at switching the POV. A bit of work is needed in sourcing, becoming less vague, and so on.
Boud (
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23:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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I'm wondering if the idea that the US had a streak of unbroken peaceful transitions of power from 1800 to 2020 is a little oversimplified. Does the 1860 election fully qualify? Buchanan didn't fight to stay in office past his term but a large chunk of the opposition responded by seceding and starting a civil war.
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03:15, 2 March 2023 (UTC)reply