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As it stands, it just seems designed to slander the group (Patriot Prayer), without offering any evidence of "far-right" activities or views. It seems the only such activities are its recurring confrontations with the far-left group Antifa? 151.143.51.84 ( talk) 01:09, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree. I've seen national news stories about their rallies in Portland, but this article sheds almost no light on their actual views. I get that they clash with Antifa (who are also often labeled extreme) and a lot of observers call them "far-right", but not much here to clarify what they actually stand for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.80.236.53 ( talk) 21:49, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree with this criticism. The page uses the term “far right“ repeatedly, but never cites facts. It just quotes other people calling this group far right. Surely there must be some evidence from the group’s own statements or actions, if this is a fair characterization. Sajita ( talk) 12:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cedar777 ( talk • contribs) 00:03, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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This article repeatedly refers to counter-protestors of Patriot Prayer as "antifa" with zero reference to where those protestors truly are self-described "anti-fascist protestors". Therefore the article shows heavy bias. Unless this can be backed up, each instance of "anti-fascist" and "antifa" should be removed entirely. They don't need to be replaced. "counter protestors" should be sufficient without being misleading. Samsepi0I ( talk) 01:14, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Created the new stub John Turano. Improvements welcome. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:24, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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Re the first paragraph's sentence "The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump" is ambiguous. Perhaps it should be "in support of the Trump 2020 presidential campaign" or "in support of then President Donald Trump" or something else that explains why a group would support an individual, rather than a cause or a campaign. It might have made perfect sense when the sentence was first written, but it doesn't make sense now from a fresh perspective. Someone with more familiarity with the subject matter than me should be able to correctly clarify the sentence. 67.131.54.112 ( talk) 05:09, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Not sure if the group's involvement in the (removal of the) Nightmare Elk is worth mentioning? More sources on the article's talk page. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:13, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear calling groups like Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys terms like "white nationalists" is blatantly not true on its own (Proud Boys isn't even run by anyone who is white right now). And considering there are no articles being sourced that support the statement that Proud Boys is a white nationalist or far-right group, there is no reason for this to be included in the opening paragraph. As of this writing I've had Jorm revert my edit multiple times and is claiming I'm the one doing disruptive edits for removing unsubstantiated claims. Until there is any source (I'm well aware that Wikipedia is about sourcing and not "truth," whether the qualifiers are true or not), there is no reason to include blatantly inflammatory descriptions of these groups. I'll revert my edit back and request a source either be provided or explain why these terms should be included. I'm hoping we can be more civil with this and not continue to cause issues in cleaning up the article. Sarstan ( talk) 23:01, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
The group, founded in 2016, has also had close associations with far-right groups like the Proud Boys and with white supremacists.It's sourced, the end. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 00:38, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Didn't notice the article being inserted in there in the middle of these edits. Vox being a source is extremely questionable, but I'm not going to spend my time since they're considered a reliable source on the list of Wiki's sources. But I did adjust the wording so it follows what the article claims. As it was, the page is saying Proud Boys are white supremacists, which the source is not claiming. Sarstan ( talk) 22:56, 8 October 2021 (UTC)