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I've edited Casey's husband's surname. It's McGuiggan, not Casey. Trust me.
This is mostly a very biased entry using the word 'conservative' in a highly tendentious way. Casey is a respected psychiatrist whose positions regarding traditional marriage and child-raising are based on her own clinical experience. There is also a wealth of research by other social scientists which supports the traditional position that children are best raised in a married heterosexual family preferably consisting of the children's natural mother and father. The article refers to criticisms of Casey's position without adverting the reader that this comes mostly from gay activists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AmatorDei ( talk • contribs) 21:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I've just noticed this comment by GeneralBelly. Professor Casey is primarily a psychiatrist and her clinical experience is highly relevant to issues such as homosexuality, adoption of children by homosexuals, the effects of abortion on women, and the other isses mentioned in the article. Whatever you think, being gay is a psychiatric issue. I would refer you to the organization Narth which is an association of psychiatrists, psychoanalysts and psychotherapists who treat individuals with unwanted homosexual attractions. If these individuals seek psychiatric help for these attractions, then, by definition, it is a psychiatric problem. You might not like this but it is a fact. Your frivolous comparison with a sportsman is completely irrelevant to the the discussion. With regard to the Swedish report, I read this and agreed with Professor Casey's interpretation. Sometimes social science researcher's with a strong ideological bias find it difficult to accept the results of their own research when it contradicts their deeply held beliefs. AmatorDei 01:46, 27 March 2010 (UTC) AmatorDei —Preceding unsigned comment added by AmatorDei ( talk • contribs)
Need a quote for that. Lionel ( talk) 21:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
An editor insists on adding unsourced stuff like "right-wing" and "conservative" and removes sourced descriptors such as "leading". For the removal they cited a wikipedia article which is not binding in anyway shape or form. On the other hand, WP:WEASEL supports the addition of "leading" as it is cited. Lionel ( talk) 21:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Since Roscelese has made constructive edits which seem to have resolved the issue, can we remove the NPOV tag? GeneralBelly ( talk) 19:44, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
The irish Times is the paper of record? This article is bordering on defamatory in its biased opinion against Casey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.207.58.11 ( talk) 15:13, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
This article was revised because of the bias, inaccuracies and prejudiced tone. For example, the use of the politically charged tag "conservative," what exactly does that mean? The sources were very poor, clear misquotes. Just because a journalist writes a story on someone does not mean that the story is accurate or a true representation of what was said. Because of that the revised article was referenced with Casey's own works to properly represent her positions. Another example of an inaccuracy is her being named a pro-life activist without any proof, she is not a pro life activist (a term that itself is very vague, no definition was provided) if she was then the author would be expected to provide evidence. All in all the original article was a disgrace. I believe the new article will give those who disagree with Casey an opportunity to air criticisms of her work in an appropriate manner. -- liamfoley
Has she ever described herself as being conservative? I think that is the most important point. Conservativism is completly subjective and depends on where I as an individual stand on the political spectrum. a "very conservative" person might describe Casey as liberal and just about any person who disagrees with her and would prefer to see a more permissive society will dismiss her as conservative. I would like to see more references to support her being refered to as conservative. If she describes herself as conservative all the better but who else describes her as conservative. If it is people who disagree with her on issues then I think that has no place in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.191.229.75 ( talk) 10:28, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
The above article from the Irish Times is an opinion by the well known critic of the Catholic Church, Patsy McGarry. It is not objective, it is not a fit source for this entry. Just because you agree with him does not make it a "fact." You do not even define what you mean by conservative in this context, for all any of us know you could be an activist yourself. Describing someone as "conservative" like this is hardly "evidence," how does she describe her own views, do you have evidence to support your opinions other than one subjectice source? The Irish Times contains a "Corrections and Clarifications" column almost every day, it acknowledges its own tendency to get facts wrong not to mention opinions. 137.191.229.75 ( talk) 12:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Generalbelly accuses Casey of claiming that UNICEF support her position yet does not provide a link to the original article where she makes that "claim", this is either sloppy work or clear bias. This accusation needs to be removed or a link to the original article where she claims such support needs to be inserted at once. 137.191.229.75 ( talk) 12:55, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Let's avoid edit war; some of this has been discussed above and at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive121#Patricia_Casey. I'm only interested in creating a quality NPOV article, so always happy to discuss improvements and help where I can. All the best, -- GeneralBelly ( talk) 13:42, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Unless the CIA have described Patricia Casey as being "conservative" appealing to their Factbook is irrelevant. The same applies for your other "sources." I removed the UNICEF material because you have no reference supporting your claim that Casey made such a claim. In light of this, accusations of unprofessional behaviour is potentially libellous. Eainem ( talk) 14:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
GeneralBelly I think you’re somewhat confused about the different types of sources. These kind of articles need primary sources in order to clear up confusion. You have not provided a link where Casey has made the claim you repeat, you do, however, provided links where representatives of the Irish office of UNICEF have said that she made an erroneous claim. That is a secondary source and not enough in itself to support what you wrote. Unless you can provide primary sources for this and other claims you make about Casey this needs to be removed without delay. Liamfoley ( talk) 15:28, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
• BeneralBelly: at this point both your links lead to a subscription only service. An inaccessible source is not a source that’s appropriate for an article that’s as open and free as Wikipedia. Again I think that it’s not unreasonable to request either a source that is easily and freely accessible or an immediate removal. Liamfoley ( talk) 15:55, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
GeneralBelly: unfortunately in the absence of easily accessible sources all that we have is your word. Considering the point that this specific issue is becoming a point of contention it is only fair that you provide a source that is free. Nothing personal, but when it comes to a person’s professional reputation your word is not enough since you can make that accusation under the cloak of anonymity provided by Wikipedia. Once again I think that it’s not unreasonable that you remove the references that require payment or provide references that are more easily accessed. Liamfoley ( talk) 16:26, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
• GeneralBelly. If that is true then the editors you mention need to verify this. You are writing that the professor of psychiatry at Ireland’s largest university misrepresents data and makes false claims of support.. Even if you do produce other editors that is by itself a weak argument unless you can provide sources. If necessary the matter can be brought to the next level and have another authority look at the material and verify that the accusations are true. Liamfoley ( talk) 16:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
I am pleased to see this article has been modified to reduce the bias of the original writer. I also objected to the tone and terminology of the article when it first appeared in 2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmatorDei ( talk • contribs) 13:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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She is known for her regular column with the Irish Independent newspaper, and her controversial views on a variety of social issues.
The opening paragraph of the article currently ends with a statement that Casey is known for her "conservative views on a variety of social issues." I think it would increase clarity if we instead listed the positions on which she has taken conservative positions. Would anyone have any objection to such? Perpetualgrasp ( talk) 20:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)