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possible replacements for present illustration, i dont like the current one 'coz its difficult to see how consent can be obtained from a young child. use here is pretty much gratuitous - i think other images exist which can serve the need here. so let's see ... Doldrums 13:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Why the left side?
Exception: Portraits with the head looking to the right should be left-aligned (looking into the text of the article) when this does not interfere with navigation or other elements. In such cases it may be appropriate to move the Table of Contents to the right by using {{TOCright}}. Since faces are not perfectly symmetrical it is generally inadvisable to use photo editing software to reverse a right-facing portrait image; however, some editors employ this controversial technique when it does not alter obvious non-symmetrical features (such as Mikhail Gorbachev’s birthmark) or make included text in the image unreadable.
Rklawton 13:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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"Moved picture as per style guide which expressly states that images should not be looking off page".
Can you please point me to where that is from, as from your edit review I do not see what you mean with it.
Also I wonder why you want to move the image to the left and the TOC to the right, when 99% of all articles have it reverse - and I feel uniformity is a good thing for these things. People expect it to be left, left is where the eye and the mouse will tend to be. We read from left to right, and all other 'control fields' of Wikipedia are to the left too. MadMaxDog 14:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
MadMaxDog 14:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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This is an encyclopedia, so I believe accuracy is important. As a photographer who has worked with article and image layouts for many years, I can tell you that left aligned images are common and that off-page looking portraits are never acceptable. I do, however, like the new image you added to the article. Though some editors take issue with black and white photography, I do not. Rklawton 15:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I have classified this article as a start due to the level of detail. It can be further developed by further sourcing and a history section notably on patient rights. Capitalistroadster 23:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
"Due to concerns[citation needed] such as dignity, human rights and political correctness, the term "patient" is not always used to refer to a person receiving health care. Other terms that are sometimes used include health consumer, health care consumer or client."
Calling a patient a "consumer" has nothing at all to do with "human rights" or "dignity" or even "political correctness." Instead, it seems an attempt to mold how people view patient-doctor relations into something more like a business transaction. Sounds like it could be a PR campaign by another corporation trying to modify the culture to fit its agenda. I think the first sentence should be removed entirely.
Spartan2600 ( talk) 16:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I think that what is stated under the heading "Views" ("Some argue that it can be necessary to be a "bad" or "noncompliant" patient in order to recover.") is purely personal opinion. The "some" really refers to one person's opinion. Unless there are some good arguments to keep it I will remove it soon. Horus ( talk) 21:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The paragraph linking to the 'to err is human' report added by 70.112.19.186 looks like an excuse to add a link to someone's research, but given the current scope of the topic seems irrelevant. Either the article needs expanding and this needs putting in a section on its own or it needs removing. Tomcrocker ( talk) 13:06, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
In the second paragraph, the etymological trace to the ultimate source "suffer" may be apt, but as used the term patient is closer to "Patient (grammar), in linguistics, the participant of a situation upon whom an action is carried out" which in turn is linked to the older meaning of the word suffer (from definition 5 in Wiktionary) "to endure, undergo, permit, allow" that is exampled in "Suffer the little children to come unto me" from the King James Version (1611).
Also, the quote from Yoda doesn't refer to the suffering idea at all, but to the now-common usage of the word to indicate calm contented waiting. I've edited many articles but never at the top level before, and I think the paragraph in question ought to be expanded and the example changed. If anyone can provide a quote NOT from the Bible it could avoid knee-jerk objections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rskurat ( talk • contribs) 18:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
To me, the section on outpatients and inpatients seems to be biased in favor of outpatient surgery. Evancahill ( talk) 03:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
I know that this is an issue in the US: Patients may go into the hospital under "observation" and may be discharged without being admitted. Should this be discussed? BobDog54 ( talk) 18:01, 13 June 2016 (UTC)