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![]() | Parshvanatha was a Philosophy and religion good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||||
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@ Capankajsmilyo: Please see this source, and do not add unsourced content. I welcome NPOV. However, NPOV can only be based on views that can be verified in reliable source(s). Your cooperation is requested, Ms Sarah Welch ( talk) 01:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Farang Rak Tham ( talk · contribs) 17:37, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Before starting this review, I'd like to state that I have little knowledge of Jainism itself, I mostly edit about Buddhism. But as a result, I am familiar with some Prakrit terminology.
I have assessed the article at B now.
reject the theory of difference: awkward. Try to rephrase this with verbs instead of nouns, e.g. reject that the two are different
a professor of Sanskrit known for his publications on Jainism.Too detailed for the lead. Cut out.
Parshva is popularly seen as a ford-maker...as a teacher?
four vowsIn the lead and here you say fourfold restrain, four restraints and four vows. Settle for one.
...some parts of historical claims...You mean claims made by traditional sources?
Doubts about his historicity are supported by the most ancient Jain texts...Confusing. Do you mean to say that ancient texts do not clear up the confusion about Parshva's historical dates? Or do you mean that ancient Jain texts themselves directly express doubt about Parshva's timeline?
Universal HistoryIs this a chapter name, or a technical term?
two JinasPlease expand what this terms means.
lack the iconographythe iconography of Parshvanatha or that of all the Tirthankaras?
the dark half of the month, to reach a wider audience, you might consider using a term also used outside of India, e.g. waning moon, fortnight of the lunar month, etc.
the Tattvarthadhigama Sutra state the twelve householder vows to be...: state that the twelve householder vows are...
don't: Colloquial. Do not is better.
take a perpetual and daily vow to go only certain distances and take only certain directionsConfusing. If this is about restricting oneself to not travel too far, say so. If this is about not visiting places that are detrimental for the spiritual life, say so. If it is both, say so.
the Jain texts state he married Prabhavati, the daughter of Prasenajit (King of Kusasthala)...Interesting. In Buddhism, that king is believed to be a contemporary of the Buddha. (Just a thought here. Nothing to fix.)
translates a Jain text as stating...: Complex. Try In Heinrich Zimmer's translation of a Jain text...
entered the practice of meditations: started practicing meditation? Started training his mind?
Pausha month (December/January): Better to add the western equivalent at first instance of the word Pausha.
He meditated for 84 days before attaining Kevala Jnana under a Dhaataki tree near Benaras.Shortly indicate the source to prevent "in-universe writing" (I admit this is not the best term for religious texts, but for lack of a better term).
The Jain mythology describes gods of various heavens attempting to distract or harm Parshvanatha, but the serpent god Dharanendra and goddess Padmavati guard him as he journeys to omniscienceNo need to put this in a note. It helps to follow the story of Parshva's life.
On the 14th day of the moon in its waning cycle of the Chaitra month (March/April), Parshvanatha gained omniscience.According to whom? Remember the encyclopedic tone.
The gods built: wikilink to Deva (Jainism)?
contemporaneously: contemporaneous with whom?
I will continue with a detailed review per section later. Feel free to insert replies or inquiries.
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It's wrong to say that Digambara texts are dated to later centuries. I have removed this statement. Mr. Jaini took his lessons from a Shwetamber scholar. His opinion about Digambara texts can't be trusted as unbiased or neutral.- Nimit ( talk) 16:28, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Vami IV ( talk · contribs) 14:47, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
In reviews I conduct, I may make small copyedits. These will only be limited to spelling and punctuation (removal of double spaces and such). I will only make substantive edits that change the flow and structure of the prose if I previously suggested and it is necessary. For replying to Reviewer comment, please use Done,
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(ford-makers or propagators of dharma)
He was the earliest exponent of Karma philosophy in the recorded history.Which recorded history?
[...] whereas historians point that he [...]Point out?
Digambaras disagree with Śvētāmbara interpretations.Redundant, remove.
There are terms and pieces of information in this section that, as a Westerner with little grasp on Indian religion, escape me with just the article alone. Ideally, the article prose would introduce or explain these; examples of this would be the tirthankaras, which are explained, but in parentheses (replace these with a comma; it is best to use parentheses sparingly and for notes like these, which provide small details). Others, like what Indras are, are not explained.
Expand this section. There are six sentences - one without citation - in this section, none of which detail why or how Jains build these statues, or trace their creation through history.
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Vami IV, Capankajsmilyo, it has been over a month since anything was posted to this page or to the article. Where does this nomination stand, and will there be any progress soon? Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 04:38, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
In Tirthankara infobox, Died should be replaced with "Moksha" Sajai007 ( talk) 17:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Is he accepted as historical by scholars or not? The intro says so, but the body makes a convincing argument against it (the absence of evidence, the similarity with other mythical figures etc). This was flagged in the GA review over a year ago so really ought to be cleared up by now. 92.17.144.186 ( talk) 16:09, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Kindly discuss before making disruptive edits to the article. An edit war does not help anyone. The existing image of the idol at Shankheshwara, Patan is clear enough and meets MOS:IMAGEQUALITY. The picture of the icon at Ellora caves is not clear enough and has irrelevant noise. ParvatPrakash ( talk) 18:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)