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While everything said here holds true of Lew Rockwell, Rothbard was not as religious as this entry would suggest. While he did himself believe in God and he worked very closely with Lew, none of his writing with which I am familiar would suggest that he viewed religion as necessary for social order. I'm leaving the article alone for now because I'm not quite sure how to work this in. -- dfranke
As it stands, Old Republic redirects to Galactic Republic (Star Wars). I'm pretty sure that Lew Rockwell wasn't referring to Star Wars. Can somebody who knows something about paleolibertarianism and Lew Rockwell fix this issue? — thames 00:33, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Rothbard was a utilitarian. In general, some paleolobs are "hostile" to utilitarianism, but that shouldn't be listed here as a defining characteristic! -- Christofurio 13:11, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
Rothbard wasn't a utilitarian. He did believe that anarcho-capitalism would lead to the best society, but he based his philosophy off natural law. See "For a New Liberty". 66.116.18.114 03:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Paleolibertarianism, at least as described in this article, seems to be the general ideology of Lew Rockwell and the folks at lewrockwell.com. This is not especially characteristic of Rothbard, therefore, I'm removing/proposing to remove references to him such as they now are. Bob A 04:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, Rothbard called himself a paleolibertarian on many occasions, and his piece "Ron Paul and his enemies" is probably one of the major original pieces to paleolibertarianism before it came out. here is a prime example http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html
I deleted the mention of walmart from this sentence... "Political alliances with paleoconservatism. The two groups are closely related, although they sometimes quarrel over the virtues of free trade, Wal-Mart and other issues.'
Rather than have a section starting: "Paleolibertarianism is commonly distinguished by:" where I put the tag "original research?", either a) include references for each point or b) have section on what each person means by it. Carol Moore 00:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC) CarolMooreDC talk
This is definitely a ridiculous claim, at least as Wikipedia currently defines the term: "While practically all paleolibertarians subscribe to a philosophy of anarcho-capitalism [...]" 68.83.72.162 ( talk) 15:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
For this article to bear any resemblance to NPOV, some part of it must contain responses to paleolibertarianism from people other than libertarians. the criticism from Hans-Hermann Hoppe hardly counts. and, if there is no critique from third parties, then the word is a nonencyclopedic neologism. i hope someone other than me can add some critiques to this, or even positive comments from nonlibertarians. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 03:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
This would go a long way in debunking Mises supposedly Old Right economics. Some speculate Ludwig Von Mises was ambivalent about socialism versus free capitalism. Mises correctly uses the word capitalism as the use of capital, and states ambivalently that communists were merely capitalists who employed the state. I believe Mises was interested in innovation and effeciency in different market systems. -- 173.31.191.192 ( talk) 18:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
The article needs a solid definition up at the top. All that stuff about where the term came from should be down in the details.--LanceHaverkamp 16:20, 5 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lance W. Haverkamp ( talk • contribs)
First it's amazing when one looks at something one worked a lot on 4 or 5 years ago, all the WP:OR that one put in - other that others have let slip in. Anyway, cleaned it up according to actual sources at this diff.
I'm not much into sectioning short articles. Thoughts on sectioning? CarolMooreDC 20:46, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
The final paragraph begins "During Ron Paul's run for United States Congress several sources mentioned 'paleolibertarianism' in relation to the issue of bigoted language in Ron Paul newsletters circa 1989-1994..." (emphasis added) The problem is that the claim that Ron Paul's newsletters used "bigoted language" is in itself potentially libelous unless proven to be true. Since the assertion lacks any primary sources, it would seem that it is not factual, but rather, someone's opinion. Indeed, the only "source" cited in that paragraph is Salon.com, which is widely accepted to be liberal-leaning, and therefore, likely to be among Paul's detractors, rather than an objective source. Consequently, I suggest that the statement be reworded or removed. Bricology ( talk) 05:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Removing important info, like Rockwell no longer calling himself a libertarian, really is an incredibly POV move. Do we have yet another article where the Austrian Economics battle continues??
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Someone keeps reverting edits regarding organizational strategies to imply that David Duke and Joseph McCarthy are examples of paleolibertarianism. These absurd claims stem from an article on organizing a movement based on social conservatism and economic libertarianism. As a member of the KKK, David Duke does not support personal freedom, and certainly Joseph McCarthy's era of mass censorship is not valued in any form of libertarianism. This is a ridiculous and slanderous comment and if it is not left alone, it needs to be removed from the article. - 185.24.233.211 ( talk) 19:09, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
References #1 and #3 are broken and dont take you to Liberty but to Mises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.21.30 ( talk) 11:58, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Reference #1 seems to violate the Wikipedia ethos of not allowing primary sources to define themselves and/or establish their own notability. It links to a piece by Lew Rockwell, one of the two acknowledged founding figures of "paleoconservatism" along with Murray Rothbard. Many non-paleoconservatives disagree that paleoconservatism is a form of libertarianism, seeing it instead as a deviation from, or splinter off of, libertarianism. Thomas L. Knapp ( talk) 01:25, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
On removing the "Some critics have accused paleolibertarianism of racism" line: I think this line should be removed from the criticisms since it is overly general and gives an impression of a significant group of critics that is not sourced (one critic can hardly be deemed enough to claim "some"). Tigre200 ( talk) 00:44, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
Until March 2021, this article included a claim by political scientist and radical activist feminist Jean Hardisty that paleolibertarianism entails "explicit racism, anti-Semitism, and sexism". I'm not satisfied with this source, but I do wonder if there should be some discussion of how paleolibertarianism interacts with racial issues. I just thought I would note the issue here for future editors. Daask ( talk) 21:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
As a relative newcomer to the paleolibertarian scene, I’m unfamiliar with the works of writers such as Justin Raimondo and Karen de Coster, mentioned here (Paleolibertarianism| /info/en/?search=Paleolibertarianism)
However, I’ve read many of Ilana Mercer’s columns and two of her books. I’d like to recommend that her work be featured on Wikipedia’s paleolibertarianism pages.
Ms. Mercer is a familiar voice in this arena. Consequently, for WikiP to remain the go-to source for reliable, complete information on myriad subjects, it should chronicle all world-class paleolibertarian thinkers and writers, especially one as prolific as Ilana Mercer. Mercer’s weekly column is now in its twentieth year, published by numerous outlets as a significant paleolibertarian writer.
Those publishers include WND [WorldNetDaily| /info/en/?search=WorldNetDaily]; Mercer writes “The Paleolibertarian”: < https://www.wnd.com/author/imercer/>
Junge Freiheit [Junge_Freiheit| /info/en/?search=Junge_Freiheit], a German newspaper of the libertarian right, has published her translated column as The “Paläolibertären Kolumne” < https://jungefreiheit.de/author/ilana-mercer/>
For several years, Russia Today ( /info/en/?search=RT_(TV_network) published an Ilana Mercer feature entitled, “Paleolibertarian Column.” < https://www.rt.com/search?q=ilana+mercer&type=>
Big League Politics ( /info/en/?search=Big_League_Politics) has sought Mercer’s perspective on paleolibertarianism < https://bigleaguepolitics.com/interview-writer-ilana-mercer-takes-on-the-cato-institutes-left-libertarianism/>
The Unz Review ( /info/en/?search=Ron_Unz#The_Unz_Review_and_other_activities) carries Mercer’s weekly column as the “Paleolibertarian Perspective.” < http://www.unz.com/author/ilana-mercer/>
Dr. Jack Kerwick, a columnist for LewRockwell.com ( /info/en/?search=Lew_Rockwell#LewRockwell.com), a leading paleolibertarian site, has argued that “it is imperative that Mercer be included in any discussion about paleolibertarianism:” < https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/attheintersectionoffaithandculture/2016/04/missing-right-wing-critics-of-american-conservatism.html>
Ms. Mercer has written three books from the paleolibertarian perspective; i.e., a hard-right, anti-state libertarianism. Her latest, “The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed,” was the first libertarian book about now-President Donald J. Trump: <
https://townhall.com/columnists/jackkerwick/2016/07/20/the-trump-revolution-the-donalds-creative-destruction-deconstructed-a-review-of-the-first-libertarian-case-for-the-trump-process-n2195251>