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You can't have it both ways: if (as is the case) it's only alleged that he worked for the Mossad, with zero proof, you can't state this as a fact in the side panel.
President Clinton ordered thousands of documents to be declassified in 1998. A lot more about Skorzeny is now known:
In August 1944, top Nazi officials made in a secret reunion in Strasbourg, France. Skorzeny, Martin Bormann, Himmler, Kaltenbrunner, among others, were present. During this gathering, they created The ODESSA, organization of ex-members of the SS. ODESSA became a new brotherhood with guidelines and missions: To take out of Germany whatever they could of Nazi Loot, to use special routes called "The Rat Lines" safehaven houses, such as barns and monasteries where these officers could spend the night, while heading to Southern Italy or Greece and boarding a cargo ship. The ship would take them to a new home, most likely in South America.
Public Domain archives in NARA.
I'm sorry, but that sounds like nonsense to me, for these reasons:
1. Germany and the SS were still very much fighting WW2 in August 1944, therefore there could not be any organization of "ex-members" of the SS formed at that time. Himmler at that time was trying to find a way to get Germany out of the war and save his neck.
2. Skorzeny was a Waffen-SS soldier, who probably never met Ernst Kaltenbrunner in his life, or would have had any desire to. If they did meet, it was only in passing.
Skorzeny writes in his autobiography "Geheimkommando Skorzeny" (first published in 1950) several occasions where he met Kaltenbrunner (not the least spending 5 days in the same prison cell in American captivity). He also mentions a meeting with these men but does not elaborate on the topic. Skorzeny and Kaltenbrunner where both Austrians, which S. makes a point of and which at the time was probably more important than we think today. 81.230.78.216 ( talk) 15:40, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
3. When Skorzeny learned that Germany had surrendered, he immediately started looking for an Allied force to surrender to. He made no effort to flee, apparently not realizing what his reputation was among the Allies. In fact, the first two Allied patrols he met refused to take his surrender because they didn't believe Otto Skorzeny would just give himself up!
There is evidence that he was part of a network that helped Nazis escape justice after the war, but I wouldn't accept an American intelligence report from WW2 as gospel on Skorzeny's activities. After all, these are the ones who kept getting duped by him all through the war, and then put him on trial afterwards basically for making fools out of them. John
There's much more nonsense in this article. Skorzeny was never judged, but acquitted from any allegations for his wartime actions. Besides, he was not even a regular member of the Waffen SS, he was just a reservist. It is true that he helped members of the Waffen SS after the war, but the quotation marks are wrong. He helped them to escape justice.
Wasn't Otto also involved in the capture of the Belgium fortress?
No, Otto wasn't there.
Skorzeny became a soldier only after the Belgium fortresses were taken.
A common error is to refer to Franco's Spain as "Fascist" Spain. The correct way to refer to diverse 30's ultra-right wing movements in Europe is as follows:
Italy: Fascism Germany: National-Socialism Spain: National-Catholicism
Of course, there were strong influences among them. For example, one of Franco's Ministers, Serrano Suñer -who recently passed away-, was a strong Hitler supporter. Also, one of the groups that supported Franco, "Falange" (Phalanx) was of clear Fascist inspiration.
This article has been delisted as a good article as its image is inappropriately copyright tagged. As far as I can see, this is the only objection to it receiving this status. However, an appropriate copyright tag needs to be found, and if used under fair use, a rationale needs to be written. Compare to the images at Our Friends in the North, which are correctly tagged and include rationales. Thanks for a really interesting article! TheGrappler 04:55, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering - Why does it say Otto Skorzeny died of cancer, while in another Wikipedia article it is stated that Otto Skorzeny died in a car accident. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famous_people_who_died_in_road_accidents
Any opinions as to which is true?
If you actually read about Skorzeny, most of his missions were noted for their lack of casualties on either side. Where do you get your information about him being a murderer? — Preceding
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24.159.122.179 (
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Whats with the nazi roughnecks? from the wikipadia entry I conclude that the takeover of austria took place on an oil rigg
I agree with the above poster (Cancer or car accident?), we really need a citation from a reliable, verifiable source as to the cause and exact date of Skorzeny's death -- Tascio 20:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
according to SS-Brigadeführer Otto Kumm in "Vorwärts Prinz Eugen!", Skrozeny refused take part himself on that mission since he knew that the planning details were leaked to the partisans. Dead-cat 08:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
And the same is mentioned in Skorzeny´s autobiography "Geheimkommando Skorzeny" (first published in 1950). 81.230.78.216 ( talk) 15:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I would think that Skorzeny is a Magyar name not a Polish one. Is there a reference for his Polish family origins?
Who says he was a Hungarian? Magyar is another word for Hungarian. Pwnt.
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Well, it's an existing Czech name for sure
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77.236.203.210 (
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The article seems to say that Skorzeny's work with Peron and Nasser came after 1970. Nasser died in 1970. Skorzeny had a great deal to do with Nasser (and the Egyptian army) and Peron in the 1950s, and that should be part of this article. If my books weren't in storage, I'd write it up. Help, anyone? 66.241.73.241 08:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
In the text it is mentioned that:
"However, he was acquitted when Wing Commander Yeo-Thomas G.C. of the SOE testified in his defence that Allied forces had also fought in enemy uniform."
This statement is confusing.
see
http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/WCC/skorzeny.htm
If the link is down:
(Source:Law Reports of Trials of War Criminals. United Nations War Crimes Commission. Vol. IX, 1949 pages 90-94)
"They were charged with participating in the improper use of American uniforms by entering into combat disguised therewith and treacherously firing upon and killing members of the armed forces of the United States. They were also charged with participation in wrongfully obtaining from a prisoner-of-war camp United States uniforms and Red Cross parcels consigned to American prisoners of war."
The reason why Skorzeny was aquitted was not that other countries used the same tactics as in the above statement is implied. The reason is that the prosecution could not prove that Skorzeny made an improper use of uniforms and insignia as defined in article 23 of the Hague Convention of 1907. And he was acquitted of the lesser charges because the major could not be proven.
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"The Defence, quoting Lauterpacht, pleaded that the 150th Brigade had instructions to reach their obectives under cover of darkness and in enemy uniforms, but as soon as they were detected, they were to discard their American uniforms and fight under their true colours."
"On the use of enemy uniforms other than in actual fighting, the law is uncertain. Some writers hold the view that until the actual fighting starts the combatants may use enemy uniforms as a legitimate ruse of war, others think that the use of enemy uniforms is illegal even before the actual attack."
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Since Skorzeny gave specific instructions to discard the American uniforms before the fight, the prosecution could not prove that he ordere "To make improper use[]of the military insignia and uniform of the enemy[]; "(Hague Convention 1907, article 23)."
Skorzeny was aquitted because it could not be proven that he ordered the improper use of military insignia and unforms as stated in article 23 of the Hague Convention of 1907.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.238.221.67 ( talk • contribs) 13:01, 21 July 2007
One hopes this article is meant to be about Skorzeny the man, rather than Skorzeny the myth. The two seem to be very different, but so thoroughly blended together in popular opinion that most people are unaware that there is any difference. "The most dangerous man in Europe" must be capable of anything, obviously, and if there is no evidence that such a thing ever existed or occurred, that can only be because he was able to hide every trace, which further "proves" the legend. He was also ten feet tall, shot laser beams from his eyes, and if he jumped in the water, he didn't get wet; the water got Otto. Yeah, right.
Just to address one point, because I have neither the time nor the inclination right now to chase down references to go over the whole thing: In the article, it is stated that Protected by Franco, Otto Skorzeny was a key figure in the organisation of the secret ex-Nazi escape network ODESSA. Yet even the Wikipedia article for ODESSA admits that such an organization very probably never existed at all, certainly not in such a monolithic form. And in whatever form (if at all) it did exist, it is highly unlikely that Skorzeny had much, if anything, to do with it. Prior to the German surrender, he was a field commander; afterwards, until the end of July 1948, he was a prisoner of the Allies, and certainly not setting up any escape networks. Moreover, he was not a man with the contacts or experience to do so anyway. He was an innovative commando leader, superb at planning operations that involved things being blown up, or flying in to rescue the occasional stray Duce. That is not a skill that translates well to arranging for false papers, transport, etc., for ex-SS members. That was a job for a politician or a bureaucrat, not an army officer. Making any such arrangements before the fall of Germany (even if he had the time, knowledge, and contacts) would have been difficult at best; making them afterward would have been impossible for Skorzeny because he was a prisoner for over three years -- by the end of which time, there would be no longer a need for anyone to set up any such escape route; its job would already have been done.
Skorzeny had been employed since August 1944 by high-ranking Nazis and German industrialists to hide money and to loot property, documents, etc., some of which were buried in the mountains of Bavaria, and others shipped overseas. When? How? He was fighting a war. And until quite a bit later than the Normandy landings, it was a war that Germany still believed that it could win, or at least negotiate a separate peace with the western powers and turn its sole attention to the east.
The short version of all of this is that Otto Skorzeny was a commando leader. A highly skilled one, yes, but not some sort of mythical being, capable of superhuman feats. His mythical reputation undoubtedly served him well during the war, intimidating and sowing confusion among his enemies. However, that legend is not suitable material for an accurate biography.
I have not seen any reference to a Skorzeny-Werwolf connection anywhere else. I suspect someone is confusing the Werwolf resistance organization (which was a failure) with Operation Werewolf, reportedly the code name for the mission to rescue Mussolini.
In short, much of the content of this article is legend, myth, supposition, fantasy, rumor, fiction, or just plain wrong.
Perhaps it could be put into a section called "The Skorzeny Legend" or something, but as far as the body of the article goes, it doesn't belong there. A Wikipedia article should be confined to verifiable facts, and should not be putting the stamp of truth on every wild tale of how its subject's exploits that happens to come down the pike.
Worldwalker ( talk) 09:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
This is the most sensible, reasonable and historically accurate part of this entire article. Should Wikipedia ever adopt such simple sense to each and every article rather than it's usual melodramatic nonsense, as displayed in in article, it might find more serious contributors becoming involved. Until then it remains a source of information for folk too lazy to read books. Tally Ho!
In his autobiography "Geheimkommando Skorzeny" he actually plays his role down in the operations described. He does not claim to have an exclusive role on the planning and execution of the Gran Sasso raid and states quite clearly that he insisted on flying in the overloaded Fiesler Storch with Mussolini because he wanted to deliver him in person to Hitler. He got the mission personally and felt he could not fail, so he wanted the full credit. Vain or typical for the time, that is up to anyone to judge. He also writes that his role as Europe´s most dangerous man was a surprise and something that he realised in the interrogations after the war (even if it was actually Goebbels who coined that title and had an interest in spreading it). The Allies found him more dangerous and successful that he himself felt. 81.230.78.216 ( talk) 16:00, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
The article linked to under "Operation Paperclip Involvement" is total conspiracy wackness about Skorzeny's supposed "deathbed confessions": President George H.W. Bush is actually a German agent named "George H. Scherff, Jr." and was involved with the "murder" of Nikola Tesla, Hitler was alive and well in the U.S. and posing for photos in 1997 at age 107, etc. It's very entertaining but obviously not a reliable resource. PapayaSF ( talk) 04:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, nobody has commented on this, so I deleted the link to http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm . PapayaSF ( talk) 03:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
There is a contradiction. At first it is written that Kaltenbrunner was heading the mission, later it says that Skorzeny was chosen by Kaltenbrunner to head the mission. So who is heading? perhaps can change the words will do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levtchenkov ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
According to the article:
Sonderverband z.b.V. Friedenthal's first mission was in summer 1943. Operation Francois saw Skorzeny send a group by parachute into Iran to make contact with the dissident mountain tribes and used to sabotage Allied supplies of materiel being sent to the Soviet Union. However, commitment among the rebel tribes was suspect and Operation Francois was deemed as a failure.
None of this makes much sense, as:
Overall, this sounds like a theoretical plan that never left the 'ground', probably for the reasons I have just mentioned. It should be given references that make it credible (and fill in the leaps of logic) or it should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.125.59 ( talk) 16:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Taking your very valid points raised in turn ; References to the original publication now added. As for the feasibility of parchuting into Iran, the Junkers JU 290 transport had a range of over 3,800 miles; so even Tehran was within reach of (say) Rhodes in nazi occupied Greece, some 1,299 miles away. Careful inspection of the referenced text contains no confirmation that the 'group' involved were specifically SS men; presumably the group included some German military presence, but with several Iranian dissidents with knowledge of other useful cells, etc. Finally, Skorzeny devised the plan , but did not appear to actively take part in the incursion into Iran. Hope that clarifies things a little. Thanks. Harryurz ( talk) 17:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
It should be noted that Skorzeny insisted on accompanying Mussolini to Berlin after his rescue. The Storch is a two person plane. They barely made it off the mountain. In the famous picture taken in the plane, you can see a look of what can be described as extreme nervousness on Mussolini. He jeopardized all three of their lives and the whole mission for no other reason I can think of outside of ego. I think it shows a lot into his personality. 66.214.187.229 ( talk) 16:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Some facts about the Storch, not hyperbole: It was a two passenger plane. that means 1 pilot and up to two passengers. Empty weight was 1950-2045 pounds. Allowable gross weight was 2920 pounds. the Wiki article on the Storch is wrong as is not surprising. Usable load about 900 pounds including fuel. The Storch held 40 gallons max, at 6.2 lbs. per gallon that's 248 pounds of fuel if the plane had full tanks, we don't know. If you calculate that each passenger plus pilot weighed 250 pounds, which is probably way too much,(except for 6'4" Skorzeny, Mussolini was 5'6" and about 170 lbs. Gerlach was thin and average build) the onboard load including fuel at full capacity of the Storch was 998 pounds. the published useful load was about 870-900 pounds. so even at these hypothetically heavy numbers the Storch was only slightly over loaded and in reality most likely within limits. This is not to say it was not loaded to capacity or that it was a normal take off, it was not. The thin air at 6,800' and short field made it risky. but let us not over state the case.-- RHB2 ( talk) 03:26, 18 August 2014 (UTC) [1] [2] [3]
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The article refers to Reinhard Gehlen as a former Nazi General however I can find no information showing that Reinhard Gehlen was a member of the Nazi party or affiliated in any way other than a member of the armed services. I don't believe that qualifies him as a Nazi. I think this reference should be changed. KMcD ( talk) 15:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.51.52.41 ( talk) 16:05, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know about ethnic roots of the surname? A Romanian toponym Scorţeni is pronounced exactly as German "Skorzeny". The word is quite rare, and coincidence is hardly occasional. - Altenmann >t 01:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
There are a variety of interrelated Slavic groups with origins in what are now Poland and Eastern Germany that have either largely willingly or forcibly been germanized in the past millennium. What's ironic is that so many of these fought in the Third Reich when it was more than obvious that their German ethnicity was far from "pure" by virtue of their obviously foreign-sounding surnames. The hypocrisy is even more obvious when you consider many with partial Jewish background were also given dispensations, such as Emil Maurice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.242.83 ( talk) 08:31, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
When was the Paladin Group founded? This page says "the 1960s". The Paladin Group page says 1970.
Karl gregory jones ( talk) 00:36, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
"..he was chosen as the field commander to carry out the rescue mission that freed the deposed Italian dictator Benito Mussolini from captivity.."
Gran_Sasso_raid and the correspondig German page and discussion say that Skorzeny had no part in planning and commanding the mission. He managed to partecipate with his small SS-Kommando but he had no autority whatsoever on the executing forces, the Paratroopers.
"Skorzeny joined the team—led by Major Harald Mors—to rescue Mussolini in a high-risk glider mission. The operation on the ground at Campo Imperatore was led by Lieutenant Count Otto von Berlepsch, planned by Major Harald Mors and under orders from General Kurt Student, all Fallschirmjäger (German Air Force Paratroopers) officers."
This is all together a very hagiographic article.
2.215.19.92 ( talk) 14:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC) Marco Pagliero Berlin
I see below that there are at least two different causes of death claimed -- cancer and car accident. Has anyone been able to come up with a solid citation for either of these? The reason I ask is because there's an author's website claiming that he interviewed Skorzeny extensively for his recent book and claims to have a photo taken in Florida in 2003. The book is pretty far out in conspiracy land, so I wouldn't be willing to cite it as legitimate, but I do think it's important to be able to cite SOMETHING solid before we assume that he died in the seventies. See: http://thebushconnection.com/skorzeny.html -- Snowrail ( talk) 15:30, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Athanatophobos June 14th, 2013.
In the end of this interview, Otto speaks French : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4yttjReH74 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Athanatophobos ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
More details on his work for Israel: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.711115 Criostóir ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:49, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Great article on this "adventuer" Skorzeny.Afraid I dont knowmuch more of his background For one it says he was from Austria ,No town city mentioned wherehe was born! Also,Skorzeny doesnt sound like a Germanic name! Thanks Eddson storms ( talk) 00:51, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Otto Skorzeny worked for the Mossad!!: "Say it ain't so"; One reference could be biased (pro-Israel or pro-Nazi as some kind of propaganda), but as hard as it may be for someone to believe, it apparently is referenced as fact. If someone can find one reference that refutes this then list it, or shake your head in bewilderment, but he also owned property in Ireland so go figure. Otr500 ( talk) 17:42, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
I can contribute several information to this wikipage that are missing but all sourced from actual documents from archives i work with as a historian, including to the whole Mossad topic from letters and other items i inherited from my granduncle who while never in any of Ottos units, after the war they were introduced to eachother through some higher ranking friends from my grand uncle at a meeting of Waffen SS veterans. I have pictures of these, i also own some documents of Otto Skorzeny since his daughter is friends with my parents and she knows what i do as a historian and how i would never try to make money or sell her fathers items, like his diary, pictures, information on his work with Gehlen and more. But i'm absolutely new here, i was told to help work on wikipedia because of my access to several archives but also to collections of documents and other historically significant items that don't exist in any archive and are owned by the peoples families that are friends with mine. My question is, how do i use sources from official documents from private family estates? Upload the documentary evidence as high quality scans on the archive website, make it public for everyone so they can crosscheck and cite the archive link? And how about archives owned by the government, is it enough there to cite the archive's name, the code, number etc. it has in the government archive, so when someone wants to crosscheck what i contribute they know what to ask for at the archives website or in person. Take the US NARA archives f.e. they have code and number and are online or the german Bundesarchiv which works together with wikicommons and whos pictures are used here with the number and code of the picture. Obviously archives are reliable sources, but do i need more than one source of and actual official document to add new info or correct a mistake? And as i asked above, what about official documents and photographs in private family collections or in my own? I mean official documents of course, i doubt the diary of Otto Skorzeny i got from the daughter would be allowed as reliable source on here, but official ones are enough? Thanks in advance, i'm already reading and learning how things work here right now, but couldn't find an answer to my questions so far but i'm still reading the rules. ChartreuxCat ( talk) 16:13, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
In fact, only one reference is being used for this claim, all other sources refer to this one and this source is not verifiable at all because it is quoting unknown Mossad agents. And because it's a very controversial claim it "requires multiple high-quality sources" as it's been written in WP:EXCEPTIONAL. "Exceptional claims require exceptional sources". Haaretz is not enough. Also in another claim, it states that both his Nazi friends and people from Mossad attended his funeral!!!! Nochyyy ( talk) 08:42, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
I posted this on an older post further up but i see here are more people so i post it here too because i can help a lot on this topic and am a historian working with gov and private archives of official documents, a fellow historian colleague urged me to help on here on several topics but I have a few questions i couldn't find a definite answer on wikipedia yet. I can contribute several information to this wikipage that are missing but all sourced from actual documents from archives i work with as a historian, including to the whole Mossad topic from letters and other items i inherited from my granduncle who while never in any of Ottos units, after the war they were introduced to eachother through some higher ranking friends from my grand uncle at a meeting of Waffen SS veterans. I have pictures of these, i also own some documents of Otto Skorzeny since his daughter is friends with my parents and she knows what i do as a historian and how i would never try to make money or sell her fathers items. Like his diary. pictures, information on his work with Org Gehlen and more. But i'm absolutely new here, i was told to help work on wikipedia because of my access to several archives but also to collections of documents and other historically significant items that don't exist in any archive and are owned by the peoples families that are friends with mine. My question is, how do i use sources from official documents from private family estates? Do i upload the documentary evidence as high quality scans on the archive website, make it public for everyone so they can crosscheck and cite the archive link? And how about archives owned by the government, is it enough there to cite the archive's name, the code, number etc. it has in the government archive, so when someone wants to crosscheck what i contribute they know what to ask for at the archives website or in person. Take the US NARA archives f.e. they have code and number and are online or the german Bundesarchiv which works together with wikicommons and whos pictures are used here with the number and code of the picture. Obviously archives are reliable sources, but do i need more than one source of and actual official document to add new info or correct a mistake? And as i asked above, what about official documents and photographs in private family collections or in my own? I mean official documents of course, i doubt the diary of Otto Skorzeny i got from the daughter would be allowed as reliable source on here, but official ones are enough? Thanks in advance, i'm already reading and learning how things work here right now, but couldn't find an answer to my questions so far but i'm still reading the rules.
ChartreuxCat ( talk) 16:25, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
The story is recounted in full detail citing interviews with participants or people in the know as well as primary sources in the Ronen Bergman book Rise and Kill First. Also, *No confirmed source can explain Skorzeny's motives for working with Israel,* - this is incorrect the book explains that he was provided a promise they would not try him (although they could not get him off Wiesenthal list) as well as paying him a substantial amount. It was simply a case of money. LamontCranston ( talk) 05:35, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Unsourced and challenged since Oct 2016; preserving it here by providing this link. K.e.coffman ( talk) 06:27, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
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I've removed the section as it does not offer and 3rd party commentary on why Skorzeny's portrayals were important or how they had impact on popular culture. I'm preserving this material here by providing this link. K.e.coffman ( talk) 20:29, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
There are issues with this claim "His coffin was draped in the Nazi colours." in the Death section of the article. A video of his funeral is available on youtube, and it shows this claim to be spurious at best. The video (seen here [5]) shows a red-black-white ribbon adorning his coffin with the words "Ordensgemeinschaft der Ritterkreuzträger" (Association of Knight's Cross Recipients). You will also see later in the video, members of his procession carrying a wreath adorned with a ribbon in the Austrian colours immediately following his medal bearer. Seeing as there is easy misunderstanding of colours in this case to mean a military flag (as is often done at military funerals), I think it should be reworded to accurately represent the truth.
-- 47.55.7.119 ( talk) 19:31, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
The issue is with the wording, not with the combination of different tinctures. "Colours" in a military context means a specific type of flag, saying his casket was draped in Nazi colours makes it sound like it was draped in a flag like one usually sees at a military funeral. Since the Association's ribbon takes their colours from the order's ribbon, it's slightly ludicrous to tie it to the swastika flag instead of the association it specifically states the ribbon represents. Note that the Knight's Cross was "denazified" after the war but maintained the same ribbon, to say they are the "nazi colours" is to conflate very different things. Would Feldgrau not also be a "nazi colour"? Would someone wearing a black suit be said to wear the SS colour?
The source also says in the same sentence that he was buried by his comrades, but the video clearly shows young students from his former Studentenverbindung being the pallbearers. It's fairly safe to say that this was journalistic creative writing rather than actual research into his funeral, since it only has one sentence in the whole article about it.
-- 47.55.7.119 ( talk) 03:55, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Was it an actual flag or a ribbon on the coffin in the photos you have? The video I linked to only shows a ribbon with the aforementioned inscription.
As for using your own pictures, see Wikipedia:Image use policy. I'm sure your photos would be welcome and a useful addition to the article.
-- 47.55.7.119 ( talk) 22:19, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Given no movement on this since August 2017, I went ahead and just removed the sentence. Its absence does not substantively hurt the article and its inclusion could be misleading. Feel free to re-add and clarify if you disagree/add sources. Buffs ( talk) 18:40, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
A new book :
The Skorzeny Papers Evidence for the Plot to kill JFK
Ralph P. Ganis
(2018)
ISBN : 978-1-5107-0841-9
This book is based on Otto Skorzeny's archives.
According to the author (Ralph Ganis), there was a link between Otto Skorzeny and Guy Weber in Katanga. It may interest you to learn that Guy Weber was the assistant of SACEUR Lyman Lemnitzer (see "Operation Northwoods") when the SHAPE moved from France to Casteau in Belgium. Then Guy Weber worked for king Leopold III in Argenteuil. King Leopold III was a friend of Lyman Lemnitzer.
It should also be stressed Otto Skorzeny was a close friend of Leon Degrelle in Spain. The well-known terrorist Stefano delle Chiaie and Junio Valerio Borghese had to leave Italy after the Golpe Borghese ( /info/en/?search=Golpe_Borghese ) and went to Spain where they met Otto Skorzeny and Leon Degrelle. They are most probably deeply implicated in "black terrorism" in Europe (together with SHAPE).
Also interesting to know that Otto Skorzeny met Dr. Lawrence Levy who created " Allied Research Associates Inc. " in 1961. Dr. Lawrence Levy worked with Lyman Lemnitzer (SHAPE). The main location of " Allied Research Associates Inc. " was " MECAR " in Belgium.
-- 193.191.186.78 ( talk) 09:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Article says Shortly afterwards, with the help of a Nansen passport issued by the Spanish government, he moved to Madrid, but the article Nansen passport says they were issued by the League of Nations after WWI and were not issued after WWII. Maybe he was issued travel documents by Spain. A source and citation is needed. 31.177.99.13 ( talk) 18:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
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Nearly everyone at his funeral was young: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6tBrK58u4 ( 86.154.234.246 ( talk) 19:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC))
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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history.
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The Haaretz story is behind a paywall, but the same story was published in The Forward without a paywall.
https://forward.com/news/336943/ht/
The Nazi Who Became a Mossad Hitman
Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman
March 27, 2016
-- Nbauman ( talk) 18:35, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
It's mentioned that he filed for divorce to marry Ilse, but no details of his first wife are given Smungospeglord ( talk) 07:44, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Pope Paul VI has:
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I don't know how trustable the auction house is, or what have later historians made of these documents, but if true, they are more relevant in this article than in the pope's. -- Error ( talk) 10:39, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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During WWI he would have been of fighting age, yet nothing is even mentioned of that entire period. ¿Did he not serve? At very least a one-line section should be included to address this most puzzling question; He was so eager to serve in the second war, ¿why not the first? If nothing is known, addressing it as such should suffice. (I have no sources to cite here.) 69.10.163.44 ( talk) 19:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)