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Orba isn't a river, it is a torrent. -- 83.103.98.99 10:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC) reply

I agree, indeed, to quote the Italian Wikipedia ( it:Orba (torrente))
Il corso d'acqua è caratterizzato da un regime estremamente torrentizio
i.e it’s extremely torrential
It’s a pity to lose the nuance of fiume versus torrente so I’ll move it to Orba (torrente). — Ian Spackman 12:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC) reply