Opolje is part of WikiProject Kosovo, an attempt to co-ordinate articles relating to Kosovo on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the
project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion. If you are new to editing Wikipedia visit the
welcome page so as to become familiar with the guidelines. If you would like to participate, please
join the project and help with our
open tasks.KosovoWikipedia:WikiProject KosovoTemplate:WikiProject KosovoKosovo articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Serbia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Serbia on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SerbiaWikipedia:WikiProject SerbiaTemplate:WikiProject SerbiaSerbia articles
This article has been
automatically rated by a
bot or other tool as Stub-class because it uses a
stub template. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the |auto= parameter.
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Comment: Google search is, as always, controversial. It often shows the high number of "results", but the real number of results can only be found out if one goes to the last page of the results. So,
"Opolje" "Kosovo" -Wikipedia returns 115 results, while
"Opoja" "Kosovo" -Wikipedia returns 127 results. This is very close, not nearly like the ratio claimed by Calthinus. As is usual with Google, those contain many results in other languages, i.e. searching for "Opolje" gives also results in Serbian, while searching for "Opoja" returns results in Albanian and Turkish. When Google Books are searched, Opoja returns
20 pages of results, while Opolje retunrs
22 pages of results. So, there is no evidence of "Opoja" being more
common then "Opolje". Vanjagenije(talk)16:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Vanjagenije it's the best we have. Here's the links [
[1]] -- I don't see a single result in Albanian or Turkish here and I scrolled three pages -- my preference is on English only -- and there you have 35,600 results for "Opoja" "Kosovo" -Wikipedia. As for your search, presumably with different preferences... I used your [[
[2]] hyperlink and 12, the page your link sends to, is not the last page for me, and it says there 20,800 results in total, -- I do see one Albanian and one Turkish source (weird, I thought the Turks would use their own name). But this is page 12, neither the most relevant nor the last page that's getting displayed. --
Calthinus (
talk)
17:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Curiously, even sources that present arguments that favor Serbian interpretations of Kosovo history... in at least one case are now using Opoja. Here's a discussion of the Slavic substratum of Opoja Albanian which states "Language shift from Slavic to Albanian took place in the late 16th and 17th centuries in Opoja" [
[3]] -- obviously idea non grata for Kosovar Albanians and idea very grata for Kosovo Serbs in all the "we were here first" bilateral rants we're all familiar with. But, the name used? Is the Albanized Slavic name, not the Slavic name. --
Calthinus (
talk)
17:33, 25 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Weak Support I am not an expert in the field but I bumped into an article
[4] saying that ...This paper explains /o/ in Opoja by reference to the Slavic substrate present in that area of Kosovo. Language shift from Slavic to Albanian took place in the late 16th and 17th centuries in Opoja... So, I 'd say Opoja covers criterion Precision (
WP:NAMINGCRITERIA) since the article discusses a nowadays municipally.
Cinadon3601:48, 28 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Vanjgenije, namely that Google Scholar and Google Books show more results for "Opolje" compared to "Opoja". Raw google searches are inappropriate because they contain a lot of junk and spam.
Khirurg (
talk)
19:25, 1 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Support - as per nominator. The form Opoja outnumbers Opolje. In regards to Turkish forms as it was touched upon, they do not use a J letter for the Y sound and would not come up in those search results under Opoja, the Albanian spelling for the region. Instead in Turkish, its Opoya with a y
[5],
[6].
Resnjari (
talk)
14:20, 6 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per nomination, ElmedinRKS, Cinadon, Ktrimi991 and Resnjari. Since
Opoja is part of
Kosovo, a nation recognized by 100 members of the United Nations, it would be counterintuitive to continue referencing
Opoja by its Serbian name,
Opolje, when 99.9 percent of its population is Albanian. Unlike Kosovo's capital,
Prishtinë, which is known in the English-speaking world by its English exonym,
Pristina, Opoja does not have an English exonym and therefore the main title header of its Wikipedia entry should feature its native name. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs)09:28, 15 September 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this
talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.