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The image of "Modern IndyCar" is from 1994; current 2006-design IndyCars, like their Formula One counterparts, no longer use turbochargers, a change noticable by the air-box now visible at the top of the car, a development the car in the image does not have; a new image is thus requested/invited. -- Chr.K. 23:13, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
The Panoz DP01 could be useful too, the 2007 high-nosed champ car. Though there are no actual pictures yet, only mock-up drawings and the like.
Helmetlad
19:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.218.39.73 ( talk • contribs) 05:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Formula SAE should be included here. It has been described as the largest engineering competition in the world.
Misterboston
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Misterboston ( talk • contribs) 09:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The history of the development of the open-wheel racing car is basically a history of automotive racing technology, and that of the cutting edge of motorsports in Europe and in America. The European technological dominance being lost to the Americans in the 1920s, and eventually being regained as U.S. groups focused more on the entertainment side of the sport, can likewise be told. Schematics on the current chassis make-ups for several open-wheel series can be given, to illustrate such matters as the differences inherent between the CCWS and IRL cars (including, most notably, the F1-like airbox and lack of turbocharger, on the latter, but the improved outright car capability of the former, giving rise to the question of whether driver talent is more important a focus than technology). Finishing out, there can be links to known speculation about the futures of open-wheel racing, both technologically, financially, and as a form of sport and/or entertainment. -- Chr.K. 21:22, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Removed the link to Australian Formula 2 because there already is a listing for Formula 2, and a link to Australian F2 from the F2 page. If we listed every open wheel racing series ever the list would get longer than the article content and cause people to roll their eyes and ignore the list. -- Falcadore 03:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Dating the two modern pic is a bit of overkill. Either use modern or the year - not both. It's bad language. -- Falcadore ( talk) 07:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
See: http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=10557 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.18.130 ( talk) 23:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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The external links section I added has been removed without comment. Actually I think this is probably a good idea, the one link there was of doubtful value and all I did was to move it from the text to comply with WP:MOS. Normally best to make some attempt at communication when reverting another person's work, however, especially as this particular edit removed two different people's efforts. Andrewa ( talk) 21:54, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
The tone of the article suggests that open wheel race cars are inherently superior to closed wheel race cars. The evidence does not support this.
The technological excellence of F1 is amazing, but a similar closed wheel car could also be made.
That F1 has a formula with definite limits, and very good marketing does lead to a technological competition between builders.
On the other hand, a modern version of a closed wheel race car similar to the older can-am cars would have substantial aerodynamic advantages.
If a modern version of a can-am type car with the technological sophistication of a Brabham sucker car or a Chaparral variable wing car were to run against F1 my prediction would be that the can-am car would win. A Porsche 917 would absolutely devastate an F1 if the 917 were built with modern materials. F1 builders would enclose the wheels if the rules allowed it.
In terms of engines: One can purchase motorcycles for street use whose engines rival the capabilities of F1. The Ducati Desimodeci springs to mind. Of course an F1 engine could not run in a closed wheel car: it would die of embarrassment.
In terms of brakes: A modern road car has more technologically advanced brakes than an F1. I'm paraphrasing the F1 web site.
In terms of aerodynamics: Give me a brake! F1 cars may achieve pretty good down force but they are about as aerodynamic as a brick.
In terms of power to weight: With a monocoque carbon fiber frame a closed wheel race car could be in the same weight class as F1. EdEveridge ( talk) 07:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Ultimately this is all academic because the faster open-wheel car class is F1 and a car faster than F1 has been built and it has closed wheels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7bG9sP0jGg So no, closed wheel is intuitively more aero, and there is a car to prove it. Open wheels are forced by regulation to make the car look like a real race car and not some beefed up sports car or maybe because car crashes are part of the show, and open wheels are a crash magnet. It definitely is not a speed issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A1957 ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
On Amazon, I bought the book "Nigel Mansell's Indy-Car Racing," a great book which features photos and information about the 1993 Kmart-Texaco sponsored race team. Mansell drove the #5 car; Mario Andretti drove the #6 car. Kmart had a logo on the spoiler. But my question, which might be relevant enough for someone to work into this wikipedia article, is about the rear spoiler. Some races, Mansell had a black spoiler, and some races, Mansell had a white spoiler. Each spoiler had the Kmart logo. The car was white, regardless of which spoiler was used. Why the two different colors for the spoiler? 206.192.35.125 ( talk) 18:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Offenhauser is another open-wheel car. -- Helium4 ( talk) 21:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Someone needs to clean up/fix these conversions in the Drving section, and perhaps elsewhere. In the beginning of this section, the speed 360kph is converted to 220mph. In the next sentence, 369.9kph is coverted to 229.8mph. Anyone with some semblance of intelligence knows kph doesn't equal mph 1 to 1... The 369.9kph conversion is correct, but the 360kph should be 223.7mph. I would have made the correction myself, but there is some conversion formula used, which is beyond my editing skills. Left the way it is, it does appear embarrassing...and quite wrong. AA Pilot16 ( talk) 07:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)