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"The highway rolls over the Oak Ridges Moraine " sounds awkward. "The highway" is overused in the route description. The sentence "The terrain continues to become rougher progressing northward, with the highway diving into valleys and along cliffs overlooking the many lakes dotting the region, following the former Bobcaygeon Colonization Road for many parts" needs to be completely reworded.
The lead should include some historical information. In addition, the history only focuses on the route before it was created. Is there any more recent history that can be added?
Alright I've made some changes, see if this is any better. There is a LOT more to the history, but I simply cannot find any source (besides the unreliable Cameron Bevers source) detailing the realignments and bypasses constructed in the forties and fifties in the north. I've dug up what I can to fill the 70-year gap. Cheers, ʄɭoʏɗiaɲτ¢06:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)reply
@
Floydian: "Highway 35 is patrolled along its entirety by the Ontario Provincial Police. The speed limit for most of the length of the highway is 80 kilometres per hour (50 mph), slowing to 50 km/h (31 mph) within built-up areas, and increasing to 90 km/h (56 mph) when it connects with Highway 115." is
WP:OR, its not in the body anywhere and its unsourced.
Horse Eye's Back (
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23:16, 1 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Where in the sources is the direct support? I'm all the way through
[1] and it doesn't appear to be in there. Nor can I find it in
[2] but you must have found the specific sections already so point out the part of the text which directly supports the statement.
Horse Eye's Back (
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23:28, 1 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Well you can't read a map, so I'm not surprised.
"Highway 35 is patrolled along its entirety by the Ontario Provincial Police." - "The OPP has been policing the King’s Highways since 1922"
(page 3)
"The speed limit for most of the length of the highway is 80 kilometres per hour (50 mph), slowing to 50 km/h (31 mph) within built-up areas, and increasing to 90 km/h (56 mph) when it connects with Highway 115." - for 90km along 35/115, "Regional Municipality of Durham — Town of Newcastle 1. That part of the King’s Highway known as No. 35 and No. 115 in the Town of Newcastle in The Regional Municipality of Durham lying between a point situate at its intersection with the King’s Highway known as No. 401 and a point situate at its intersection with the King’s Highway know as No. 115.", yada yada yada, the rest can be found under "SCHEDULE 40 HIGHWAY NO. 35". - Floydianτ¢23:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Ok, so the sources should actually be split between the two sentences instead of both on the end. I'm still not seeing how you come to that conclusion for the second part though, where does it say its generally one speed but another in built up areas?
Horse Eye's Back (
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00:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Where it lists numerous locations under Part 5 and Part 6, which if you use a map, corresponds to the areas with a background the legend of said map indicates as "built-up". Is this really what you're going to nitpick about? Go conduct the GAN for
Ontario Highway 11 if you're gonna be that thorough, I'm tired of getting fly-by GAN Cup reviews. - Floydianτ¢00:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I'm not synthesizing or concluding anything. Every area that is listed in the regulation is a built up area, therefore the speed limit is lower in built up areas. I don't need one single source that makes that correlation, because anybody can validate it. It's just as how I don't need a reference to say "this parcel of land is a forest" when it's perfectly obvious from the primary source of google maps that the parcel of land is trees. - Floydianτ¢03:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
How do you know they are built up areas? The source doesn't say that. You would need a reference to say "this parcel of land is a forest," why in the world wouldn't you?
Horse Eye's Back (
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03:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Because we don't all live in oblivious mode. How do I know? Because the legend on the map says areas with orange backgrounds are listed as "general built-up area", unless I need a reference to show how to read a map and learn the English language... - Floydianτ¢04:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I noticed that there were some recent changes that indicated that Highway 35 is no longer
concurrent with
Highway 115, and Highway 35 now terminates at Highway 115 at exit 19. I couldn't find any sources online to validate that edit. Does anyone know if that's a recent announcement, or does the Highway 35/115 concurrency still exist to Highway 401?