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A fact from Olga Hartman appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 January 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that although Olga Hartman believed that her
basic research on marine worms had no practical value, it was applied to experimental studies of oysters?
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ALT1: ... that the
World Polychaeta Database is based in part on the work of Olga Hartman? Source: Read, G.; Fauchald, K. (Ed.) (2023).
World Polychaeta Database. Retrieved November 21, 2023; Böggemann, Markus; Purschke, G.; Westheide, Wilfried (2019). Handbook of Zoology. Volume 1: Annelida Basal Groups and Pleistoannelida, Sedentaria I. De Gruyter. p. 20.
ISBN9783110291681.
OCLC1399979202.
ALT2: ... that Olga Hartman jumped around rocks like a gazelle searching for worms? Source: Mohr, John L. (1977). "Olga Hartman: A personal recollection." In D. J. Reish, & K. Fauchald (Eds.). Essays on Polychaetous Annelids: In Memory of Dr. Olga Hartman (pp. 25-27). Los Angeles: The Allan Hancock Foundation, University of Southern California.
OCLC3343542,
610415673.
ALT3: ... that engineering advancements in deep water biological sample collection methods produced new species for Olga Hartman to study? Source: Fauchald, Kristian; Reish, Donald J. (1977). "Biography and bibliography of Dr. Olga Hartman". In Donald J. Reish, & Kristian Fauchald (eds.). Essays on Polychaetous Annelids: In Memory of Dr. Olga Hartman. The Allan Hancock Foundation, University of Southern California. pp. 1-23.
OCLC3343542,
610415673.
New enough, easily long enough, and well sourced. QPQ done. Earwig had a high similarity score but found only properly marked quotes, publication titles, and proper nouns as copied phrases. All hooks within rules (possibly modulo repeating a footnote to place a copy of the footnote on the hook sentence), but I think ALT0 and ALT2 are the most interesting. Some hook sources are offline, so taking them AGF. Good to go, preferably with ALT0 or ALT2. —
David Eppstein (
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19:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)reply
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The images appear to be free and properly licensed.
You might consider adding a non-free image of the person
There's at least two images available right now, one free and one non-free. The free image is from her high school class, but I couldn't identify her in the photo since I believe one other girl in the photo is her sister and I couldn't tell them apart. One solution might be to use the entire class photo, but even then, how is the reader is supposed to identify her? The non-free image is from the late 1960s and shows her and her student Kristian Fauchald.
Viriditas (
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19:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Correction, there are at least three images, one of which was a portrait profile from the Fauchald shoot in 1969. That would be ideal to use, but I haven't yet found a good copy.
Viriditas (
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20:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)reply
In early life the sentence needs
MOS:LQUOTE "always searching for polychaetes, new and old." period should be outside of the quotations
It says to include it on the inside if it was present in the original material. "When quoting a full sentence, the end of which coincides with the end of the sentence containing it, place terminal punctuation inside the closing quotation mark." However, I did remove two words from the beginning, which in the original context reads, "No matter, Olga cavorted over them like a gazelle", so I wonder if I need an ellipsis in the beginning. Also, does this mean I wasn't quoting a full sentence? It's a bit confusing.
Viriditas (
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20:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)reply
In early life I think girls is possessive and should be girl's
There is some major controversy over this online. I chose to go with girls athletics, which is AP style, but I see that some grammarians are wound up pretty tight about this style. Not sure what the answer is but I might take it up on the refdesk.
Viriditas (
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20:00, 2 March 2024 (UTC)reply
My understanding is that either format is acceptable provided it is consistent. I like the clean look of "PhD" so I used that instead.
Viriditas (
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19:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Viriditas: Thanks for the edits and explanations. You are a valued editor and I am familiar with your work through DYK. I love learning more about this project and I plan to look for more areas of growth. I am happy with your edits and will let you know if I have other concerns after another read through and spot checks of citations. I won't hold it up over a subject image but I feel like it would be a big bonus to the article.
Lightburst (
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01:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)reply
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
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Olga Hartman's Daughter
Hello -- I am Dagmar, Olga Hartman's daughter. I just came across her page and think it's great! Thank you for keeping her legacy alive. To add a little more background, she came from a farm family of five children: Emil, Hulda, Frieda and Olga (fraternal twins), and baby brother Albert -- 16 years' later. Only Emil and Albert received funding for college (as long as they majored in engineering), but my mother was determined to get a higher education, so she taught school to earn her own money and ultimately attended the University of Illinois, majoring in botany. Once she saw the ocean for the first time, she was hooked (that's what she always told me). If you need a better picture of her, please let me know.
2601:1C1:8582:BF30:7123:D370:161E:9A35 (
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16:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Hello, and welcome! More photos would be greatly appreciated. You can even upload them yourself if you like over at
Wikimedia Commons, and then leave us a note here. Otherwise, you can contact me
here, which will allow me to send you my email address. Also, if you like, you can
create an account which will allow you to message people easier and receive notifications.
Viriditas (
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08:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)reply