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Everyone who likes Nutella knows that you can taste the difference between each factory. Can someone who has tried all of them describe the differences? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:EE2:600:900:30A3:D4BA:AC12:9EC7 ( talk) 15:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Why is this needed? The fact that the product is called Nutella kind of makes it obvious that it contains nuts? -Grim- 17:06, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Can't seem to log in on my phone, but the title of the book cited is ' Chocolate: The Saga ...' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.233.244 ( talk) 17:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
TRANS FATS IN NUTELLA? Since it's much like peanut butter, the question is inevitable--at least for people who want to know what they're eating! I have contacted the company in Italy several times with this simple question, and they have steadfastly avoided giving me a clear yes-or-no answer to the question: 'does their product contain trans fats (i.e. partially hydrogenated veg. oil)?' Instead, they informed me that the vegetable fat in Nutella is 'very healthy' nut oil. From this, I conclude that the product must indeed contain industrial trans fats, only they don't want to admit it (for if Nutella didn't contain these, there should be no problem for them to state the fact--and it would be an advertising plus for them to be able to say so). The USA website gives no information, and there is no e-mail address. The info there about the peanut oil seems intended to convince people that the oil used is no issue. And why is there no recipe given for Nutella sold in Denmark? Perhaps because it is not available there, since trans fats are practically banned in that country? (Please don't remove this comment--it is intended to contribute to the discussion which has already been started here--thanks.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.21.141.224 ( talk) 12:22, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
I want to clarify my removal of the advertisement complaints section. Simply put, it's unnecessary. There's only one verifiable complaint -just one!- not many. There must be significant dissent with Nutella's advertising claims, otherwise it isn't worth mentioning on Wikipedia. One person's viewpoint skews the reader's perception. Sure, it was a silly commercial, and the biggest point was never even made by the plaintiff; that is, the children's teacher was not billed or certified as a dietitian and has zero authority on the subject. She also may have no idea what she's even talking about.
Also, the part about sugar was incorrect. Sugar by itself is a high GI-food, but I doubt these kids were packed off to school with lunchboxes full of pure crystalline sucrose. Other food will lower the glycemic index of the carbohydrates (like sucrose, which is what most people think of when "sugar" is mentioned) in their meals. The US Dietary Guidelines might have mentioned something about the sugar rush if it mattered in meal planning. Check bullet #5, it just talks about moderation.
I seconded.
Dancheng
13:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Ferrara makes it. as far as i know it's from italy so why to mention that the french places sell it?????????? No actually it is Ferrero SpA, which is in Alba in Piedmont. Ferrara is a city in another region of Italy. Zisa
There may be more than one formula of Nutella. The ingredient list in the article matches the one on the official U.S. site ( http://www.nutellausa.com/nutrition.htm). I have seen containers of Nutella from Italy, however, and they do not appear to list any partially hydrogenated oils in the ingredients (the only oil appears to be listed as "oli vegetali," or vegetable oil). I can't say for sure, but I expect that Nutella from Europe, or at least Italy, does not contain any trans fats. Can anyone confirm this? I found a discussion (thread starts at post 11) on just this topic, but no definitive answer. Optimizer 22:28, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
About the pronunciation of "Gnutella" - I was under the impression that software names derived from the GNU project were pronounced with a hard 'G' (to distinguish it from the animal I suppose) like G'nome (unlike the garden gnome), etc. -- Millard73 05:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Was this term also the precursor of the coinage of Nupedia which later became Wikipedia? (unsigned comment from anon)
Can anyone confirm the claim that the East German equivalent was called Nudossi? Considering Ossi is a West German semiderogatory term for an East German, it seems more likely that this is a joke. -- Angr ( tɔk) 12:39, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I eat nutella everyday in the morning it tastes very nice it is chocolatey. Why does it sometimes go very runny in the bottle? Do people in other countries eat nutella? I never knew this site had such a broad range of topics it even has stuff on nutella! yum! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.26.16.67 ( talk)
In english, I have always heard the 'u' pronounced as a schwa. What's the source for the pronunciations given? Stevage 14:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I think this needs to be specified. I've NEVER heard anyone say it with a schwa in the first syllable. At least in America, it's "noo-TELL-uh". Can we change this something reflecting the US/UK difference in pronunciation?
I agree. I have lived in several regions in the US and I have NEVER heard the product referred to as nut-ELL-uh (first syllable rhyming with "nut", whether nʌt, or nət), but always as noo-TELL-a, so referring to that as the standard "English" pronunciation is misleading. - Diego Gravez 21:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Most Canadians switch between either pronunciation. Yay for multiculturalism.
Late to the game, but I (American, East Coast) pronounce it NUH-tell-ah Lovellama ( talk) 01:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Given that this is from origin an Italian product I can confirm that the Italians pronounce it as noo-TELLL-a. Cbetta ( talk) 11:57, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm of Italian origin. The American english pronunciation is closer to the real thing: Noo-tell-ah. Except the "oo" part for the "u" should be a short sound rather than the "oo" sound. A bit like some older English people pronounce the "u" in "bus". Modern english has changed the "u" to be more like an "ah" sound and that is not how to pronounce the "u" in Nutella. Also, in the article is states that Nutella is prononuced "Nut-tell-ah" in Italian (the language of origin of the name) but in Italian, you cannot add a letter where one does not exist. There is no double "t" in Nu-tel-la. 203.214.22.116 ( talk) 22:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC) Typo correction 203.214.22.116 ( talk) 22:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
I know I may be a bit late to this discussion, but I do think a UK IPA pronunciation should be added. As a Brit, I've only ever heard nut-ELL-ah and only heard noo-TELL-ah on American TV shows or videos or in Europe. It is much more common in the UK to say it nut-ELL-ah therefore I think it should be added to the article. Heinzbakedbeanz ( talk) 06:33, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello, vanillin is not considered an artificial flavour-its substitute bourbonal is. 01:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
wrong, "Artificial vanilla flavoring is a solution of pure vanillin, usually of synthetic origin" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.95.41 ( talk) 06:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
What is a stereotypical container? -- Gbleem 23:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Gbleem that a bit of history on the containers and glasses is missing. As far as I can remember back the containers have been pretty much the same, but there has always also been other containers including the 1KG, 2KG, and sometimes 5LG and 10KG jars.
Next to that there has always been the option to get Nutella in little glasses that can be used as drinking glasses after they're emptied. These glasses also come in collectors editions with cartoons on them. I would love to find some more info on the history behind this, especially seeing as how the glasses haven't really changed in years. Cbetta ( talk) 12:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
In Italy the jars can be find in many different sizes: 30 grams, 250 grams, 400 grams, 750 grams, 1, 2, 3, 5 and 10 kilos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.197.169 ( talk) 21:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
In Australia "Sweet William"? Never heard of it. "Sweet william spread" only yields 4 results in Google. I'm deleting it. 203.171.193.113 07:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Nutella was available in the USA in the 70's. As a child I would buy it at local mainstream food stores. It did not cost much more than a jar of peanut butter so it was not too expensive and certainly not hard to find. But than, maybe this was only true in the New York metroplitan area where I grew up. The article as written is misleading on this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.146.118 ( talk) 14:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Nutella popular in Canada?? Where?? Sure, it might be available in grocery stores but the bottles are always dusty because nobody buys it. I would guess that it might be popular with European expats but apart from that, the average Canadian has probably never bought the stuff or even heard of Nutella. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.4.163 ( talk) 15:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I don't know which Canada you're living in, because where I live, it's quite popular. 68.149.121.27 ( talk) 03:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Ditto, especially in Western Canada.
Can someone fix the listed ingredients table so it appears under composition like it's supposed to instead of at the bottom of the page? I'd do it myself, but I'm at a loss when it comes to computer code. PeRiDoTs13 ( talk) 20:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
The jar in the picture is from Germany, not from Spain as it said before. One can even see the German print ("mit dem Besten aus gut 1/3 Liter entrahmter Milch") on the label.-- 86.103.202.16 ( talk) 17:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
On 2009-10-19, this article was robust, if somewhat bloated.
On 2009-10-20, the article was completely gutted by an overzealous editor, SluggoOne. 75% of the article was wholesale removed at once. Good form.
I'm going to reinstate the ingredients list. If anything else of value was lost, I don't personally know about it, but someone else might. For me, it's nice to be able to benefit from the superior consumer protection and labeling laws in countries outside of North America. Please don't take that away from us. Especially in Canada, you can hide an entire food product under "spices" or "natural flavor". It's bad.
I'm bringing this up because SluggoOne never bothered to. That, to me, is important. I'm sorry, but I refuse to assume good faith here; that was forfeited when such a massive edit was undertaken without any discussion whatsoever. Too often have I seen articles secretly deteriorate because people remove information in ostensibly mundane edits. Please discuss large scale changes on the talk pages, rather than hiding them in nondescript edit summaries. Thanks.
-- 99.240.223.41 ( talk) 22:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree, SluggoOne edited the article considerably, some useful information got lost in that edit. Still a good article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.102.203 ( talk) 15:03, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Cocoa is a disambiguation page; likely all links to it from this article intend cocoa powder but there is a chance they intend chocolate liquor. I have tagged some of the links {{ dn}}. -- Una Smith ( talk) 21:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Does Nutella is vegetarian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.185.62.208 ( talk) 14:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
According to the ingredients list, the Polish version would contain grapeseed oil. I highly doubt that (rather expensive stuff that) - rapeseed seems much more likely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HStreek ( talk • contribs) 07:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by the ingredients list and it's not explained - does the list reflect an actual difference of ingredients in different countries, or is it the same product everywhere, and the list is meant to demonstrate divergent international labelling requirements? For example, I know rapeseed oil and vegetable oil are clearly different (I notice the uncertainty of this fact), but palm oil can also be listed as vegetable oil (which it is). Similarly cocoa vs reduced fat cocoa (cocoa powder is by definition cocoa solids with most of the cocoa fat removed), or vanillin vs flavouring (vanillin is a flavouring), or whey vs lactose (lactose being the principle constituent of whey). Without explanation this listing is pretty unhelpful. Is it a different product in different countries, or not? 90.194.145.141 ( talk) 00:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
What is the point of the ingredients list table? The vast majority of the entries are identical from country to country; a few are minor variants (vanillin vs. flavouring); and some have slightly different quantities (different rules on how to measure?). In only one case are there apparently substantive differences: is the oil palm or rapeseed? Do we really believe that Polish and Romanian Nutella are actually that different, or is this just some sort of error? In any case, the whole table seems pointless. -- Macrakis ( talk) 13:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
They used to be on here, and they are absolutely useful information, why were they deleted? It seems like it's a lot shorter than it used to be, I kinda understand the deletion of the international ingredients difference table, but what is the need for deleting so many large swaths of an already somewhat short page? ," said The Person Who Is Strange. ~Yup. It's all true. Click here for more. My page is outdated, but there are a lot of boxes. 04:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
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According to the Nutella website (for America, anyway), Nutella contains soy oils. This is not reflected, and I'm not sure my edits are taking hold because of the autoconfirmation. http://www.nutellausa.com/ingredients.htm Cocomaan ( talk) 14:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
According to http://www.nutelladay.com/ February 5th 2012 is the 6th World Nutella Day. Their press page http://www.nutelladay.com/press/ has several cites. Should this be added to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.81 ( talk) 18:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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The French seem to have passed (or about to pass) a tax on Palm Oil. Nutella is 20% Palm Oil, hence why the tax is dubbed the Nutella-tax. Might be worth covering.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/12/france-nutella-amendment-international-row Cbetta ( talk) 16:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
User:Cbetta asked me to have a look at this article. In the current edit history, there is some back and forth about whether quoting an ingredients list counts as WP:OR. I would suggest that it isn't for the following reason. An ingredients list is a self-published primary source. I don't see the fact that it's on the side of a jar to be that problematic. In fact, some ingredients lists and dietary information notices on foodstuffs is certainly going to be held legally by the governments of various nations to a higher standard than things like newspapers, which we do consider a reliable source.
This kind of thing probably ought to be something Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink decide across food articles generally. — Tom Morris ( talk) 21:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
There's been a flurry of edits back and forth on sugar after this post http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/13kevd/til_that_the_first_ingredient_in_nutella_is_sugar/. It used to state 50% sugar, was edited to 15%, back and forth a few times and ended up being removed. According to the nutrition facts on nutella's usa web page http://www.nutellausa.com/nutrition-facts.htm there's 21g sugar in a 37g serving. That's about 57% sugar. I don't feel comfortable editing the page myself. Just wanted to bring it up.
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04:14, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
"Now that the paste is what is societally identified as Nutella"
What? Even given the silly use of "societal" for "social", which I suppose we have to just accept now, this makes no sense. -- 31.185.192.220 ( talk) 13:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Reference #2 (Carridice, Adriel. "The History of Nutella (3)". NutellaUSA.com. Retrieved 2013-01-28) is broken. Anyone has an alternative? -- 199.203.92.42 ( talk) 13:08, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
The 'Food energy' line in the info box seems to be constrained to just state a number (of kcal) without indication of portion size. A Nutella label shows 80 kcal for a 15g serving. But I'm not sure how to fix this. Can anyone help? Onanoff ( talk) 08:48, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Article says:
The traditional Piedmont recipe, Gianduja, was a mixture containing approximately 71.5% hazelnut paste and 19.5% chocolate. It was developed in Piedmont, Italy, due to a lack of cocoa beans after post-war rationing reduced availability of the raw material.
With a citation from the Nutella USA website
But in reality, Guanduja https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianduja_(chocolate)
Was invented in Turin, Piedmont during French occupation (1796-1814)
Some parts of this article also seem to imply credit to Ferrero for the creation of Gianduja 2001:8003:2463:ED00:ADB9:112:D45E:9AAC ( talk) 04:14, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
I have seen your add on television and it’s not right as in schools in the uk you cannot give children Nutella due to some people being allergic but it clearly shows a teacher in a play ground spreading Nutella clearly your company have not done any inquiries into this situation Gilliantones ( talk) 10:25, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
CNN: "It is not the first time that demand for Nutella has turned violent." nutella-discount-sparks-chaos Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:54, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Is it a chocolate spread or not? Link to chocolate spread keeps being reverted. 71.198.89.109 ( talk) 16:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
My documentation of hazelnuts and cocoa being used together in Piedmont was deleted because it "Seems out of the scope for the Nutella page". Presumably because it ALSO gives info on Gianduja. But the existing entry already mentions the latter and gives the (false) impression that it was invented after World War II.
Basically, the mixture of the two was originally known as gianduja. That already existed as a candy long before the reference given from the Nutella page. It is NOT out of scope for the Nutella page because Nutella itself is said to derive from gianduja.
Maybe my own entry needs to be rewritten. But just deleting it leaves people with the false impression that the product which became Nutella did not exist until after World War II. 23.113.53.110 ( talk) 21:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
23.113.53.110 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Do we believe it's natural or is it made out of other chocolate we will never no except what they tell us 82.25.145.201 ( talk) 21:25, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
The first line links to "cocoa" and "spread" but maybe it's more sensible to link to "chocolate spread" ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_spread) instead. Axelbrink ( talk) 18:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Veverve: Decided to move that removed gallery into the Wikimedia Commons page for Nutella under the header 3 "Nutella as an ingredient". I believe this would be a more suitable place to add large galleries of Nutella-related stuff.
Speaking of Wikimedia Commons, should we still do a Commons link to the category variant of "Nutella" or the article variant of "Nutella"? We are currently linking to Commons' category variant of "Nutella". Qwertyxp2000 ( talk | contribs) 02:24, 19 September 2023 (UTC)