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Question What other wikipedia articles would it currently be confused with? There is currently no geography article for the country or Georgia that might cause confusion.--
Labattblueboy (
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23:14, 3 September 2014 (UTC)reply
That assumes that (1) things only have 1 name (2) Wikipedia's name is the only way to name a topic; That clearly fails usage in the real world, since Wikipedia has redirects for use with alternate names already. We should not assume that Wikipedia is the sum whole of the world. --
65.94.169.222 (
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05:30, 6 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Listen,
Michael Jackson is theoretically incredibly ambiguous. There are probably hundreds of Michael Jacksons in the world. But none of them have articles about subjects that are as noteworthy as the Thriller artist. Same thing applies here; what's important about northwest Georgia in the Caucasus?
Red Slash23:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)reply
NW Georgia in the Caucuses is
Abkhazia, so is quite important in international affairs, since it's just like Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. Not quite as controversial as South Ossetia, another region of Georgia that is also a dispute between Russia and Georgia. --
65.94.169.222 (
talk)
05:12, 5 September 2014 (UTC)reply
It's an interesting stretch of land between an enormous metro area and a mountainous mid-sized metro area, and it has relatively distinct and obvious boundaries. It's a reasonably distinct cultural and geographical region. Sorry
Red Slash, it may be interesting to you but that doesn't make it notable, or more so than the area of the country. Also, it's boundaries are apparently arbitrary and nothing more than the whim of editors.
Zarcadia (
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20:31, 5 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Strong rename per nom. Though the disambiguator is rather misleading, as it isn't about a state called "Northwest Georgia", it is a region in Georgia, so perhaps
Northwest Georgia (U.S.) is better. This article is not about
Abhkazia which is also NW Georgia, and a separatist region, referred to as the northwest of Georgia. --
65.94.169.222 (
talk)
06:05, 4 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Oppose article should go to Afd for Delete instead of rename, as there is no evidence in a reliable source that this constitutes a notable division of the US state of Georgia. I see from the
Images for "Northwest Georgia" that there is not much agreement about what exact area is to be included in "Northwest Georgia". --
Bejnar (
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03:21, 5 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Support (U.S.) or (United States) could work too, and deal with a number of concerns. The title is ambiguous, and Northwest Georgia does not recognisably, preponderantly refer to the American region. —
innotata19:14, 5 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Oppose In terms of usage in reliable sources, and in particular Wikipedia title namespace, the current title is not ambiguous. That is, we have no other topic that has a claim on this title. That's the context that matters when deciding if a given title is ambiguous on WP. Since it's not ambiguous, it should not be disambiguated. That would be unnecessary
WP:PRECISION. --
В²C☎07:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC)reply
How about Northwest Georgia (USA) as above. I agree "Northwest Georgia (US State)" would be confusing to people who don't know American geography, and could think that there is a state called NW GA, much like West Virgina. I also agree that NW Georgia could be either in the country or the state. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
143.65.196.20 (
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13:19, 12 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Oppose. In the absence of other ambiguous articles on topics called "Northwest Georgia", there's no purpose to add addition disambiguation. The vast majority of Google Books hits I've seen are for this region.
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Merge and redirect
Merge and redirect to
List of counties in Georgia (U.S. state). The cities are better mentioned (if appropriate) at
Georgia_(U.S._state). This page contentless navigation trivia. It is an unworthy article, a contrived list, which if it were notable belongs inside the article
List of counties in Georgia (U.S. state). The move proposal wantingly implies legitimacy of the article, which shouldn't be given, though the current title is ambiguous with the far more worthy topic of
Colchis, the important northwest lowlands of the
Kingdom of Georgia. Resist the biases of localism and recentism. At best, a stretch, the content of this article belongs in a navigation template. --
SmokeyJoe (
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02:37, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
No. There are only two "northwest Georgia"s, (ignoring that neither are defined in sources) and neither belong at that title. This one doesn't belong, but even if it did, the two would just need hatnotes pointing to each other, per WP:TWODABS. The other is better covered under other titles, such as
Colchis. If someone where to want information on this NW Georgia, well there is no encycolpedic information to find. If someone were to want information on the fairly interesting region that is currently northwest Georgia, firstly, they should probably be looking via the history of Georgia, or via the names of the historic nations. --
SmokeyJoe (
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06:16, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Requested move 31 August 2023
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The result of the move request was:
Northwest Georgia (U.S.) moved to
Northwest Georgia. Nominator demonstrated that this move would be in line with
WP:CONSISTENT, and several participants agreed that the existing hatnote would be sufficient to prevent confusion.
– These articles have confusing and inconsistent disambiguation. These should be moved to the base name, with
hatnotes used to address ambiguity between the U.S. state and the country. In the first case, in spite of the previous RM consensus above,
Northwest Georgia still redirects there, which is
WP:MISPLACED and defeats the attempt at disambiguation. In the second case, the disambiguator is confusing in that it suggests there is a country named "Eastern Georgia" rather than describing a region of
Georgia (country), and again
Eastern Georgia is a misplaced redirect there. Most analogous titles are not disambiguated:
North Georgia, article on region of U.S. state, not disambiguated
Weak Support 1st, Oppose on 2nd - Given that Northwest Georgia (in terms of the country) is probably roughly the same as
Abkhazia and the hatnote should solve confusion there. In terms of the 2nd, I feel like "Eastern Georgia" could just as easily refer to the eastern portion of the state. Plus, it seems like that could be just an wikipedia invention. In any case that is the wrong title as it implies "Eastern Georgia" is a country. Honestly, it probably could just as easily be merged into
Geography of Georgia (country).
estar8806 (
talk)
★01:28, 1 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Georgia's kinda diagonal geography doesn't lend itself to an East/West split. That article would likely never exist.
Support first, Neutral on second - Per estar8806 on Northwest GA. I also agree a merge is probably better for Eastern Georgia.
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.