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It's good to see a few people making changes to the Page. I'm currently a Cadet Under Officer at No. 1 Squadron, and atarted this page (and the New Zealand Cadet Forces page). If you make additions to the page, I'll likely view them to see if they fit in. Of course, I'm not the wealth of all knowledge, so if I'm worng then let me know. - Liberator
I think you've done a really good job. I've always wondered why NZ ATC didnt have a page, and now it does. Keep it up. (I'm from 48th Squadron, in case you're wondering...)
I'm planning to help make this page better sometime this year. I'm planning on joining ATC this year (planning on joining No.30 Squadron). It's good to see that there are other active updaters of this page.
The page as at now (23 March 2006 2:48pm NZST) makes a claim of a rank between Under Officer and Pilot Officer. To the best of my knowledge (Being an Under Officer transitioning to Pilot Officer) there is no such rank, with the possible exception of 'Officer Cadet' which is held for the duration of the commissioning course. Until someone can provide some basis for this claim, I will revert the page to the previous version. Liberator 02:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
If you edit this article, it would be nice if you add yourself to the list below giving your username, and affiliation with NZCF (if any).
If you've left a unit, a simple ex- before your affiliation would be appreciated.
This way, we know the background and knowledge of those editing the article.
Regards,
Liberator
10:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I could be wrong, but the rank slide that has been shown on this page to be that of LAC is not correct to the best of my knowledge. The LAC rank is based on the RNZAF rank, the slide for which features a twin-bladed propellor as per http://www.nzdf.mil.nz/corporate/badges-of-rank/default.htm
Now that we've established this fact, when are you going to upload that fancy shmancy LAC rankslide you made, Liberator? -- IR Moon 04:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Added NZCF, ATC, NZCC and SCC to the entry for Cadet. If it it's good enough for the UK, US and Oz, it's good enough for us -- IR Moon 04:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge there is a distinct difference between Supplementary Staff and Civilian Instructor and the term "Supplementary Instructor" used on this page seems to me to an inaccurate merging of the two.
A suppstaff member is someone who fills a role within the unit such as stores officer, adj or similar and has been NZCF7 (staff security) cleared. They might fill the role of an instructor but they are infact part of the unit staff. This may be someone who has applied to gain a commission or simply a member of the public willing to give up their time to the unit, but does not seek a Cadet Force commission.
A civilian instructor is someone from outside of the unit that comes in to fulfil a training requirement. This may include guest speakers, aviation nuts, first aid instructors, Mountain Safety Council members etc. They are not a part of the unit and are not necessarily NZCF7 cleared.
I'm prepared to be proven wrong but I've never heard of a Supplementary Instructor before. -- IR Moon 05:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
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It incorrectly calls the 'Leading Air Cadet' rank 'Cadet Leading Air Cadet.' Similarly, it calls the LACDT abbreviation CDTLAC. However, I have not been successful in trying to edit this, thus the post here. GunsAndChips ( talk) 12:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
History
Uniform and insignia
Activities
Local Training
Courses
Competitions
Finally updated a lot of grammar and links, and expanded the "see also" section to include all Air Cadet Organisations the NZ ATC have a relationship with.
If anyone has anything else they want to add. Let me know.
I have made images of the Cadet Working Dress rank patches that go on the front of Cadet Working Dress. However I have no idea how to update the rank template to add them in. No real rush though. Got until at least August 2021 as due to *Unspecified Virus* ravaging Fiji (where CWDs are manufactured).
Disregard. Figured it out. Majorconvenience ( talk) 21:18, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
This is not my area. I hope there is someone here that can do this with the care it deserves. I will keep a note to return, if it has been left. My first thought would be to move the very good introduction from the 'Association' page and make a new section. Dushan Jugum ( talk) 20:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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What is the correct colour of the bird on the ATC crest? Should it be blue-backed with a russet breast (as in the crest displayed on the page as at 29 Oct 2022) or should it be brown? All recent versions of the crest I've seen in use have had a brown bird. The original RNZAF-ATC crest had a New Zealand sparrowhawk (AKA New Zealand falcon). See here for an example. At some point in time, the New Zealand sparrowhawk on the crest was swapped for a male Eurasian sparrowhawk, with the blue back and russet breast. That was the logo I knew right through the 1980s till the early 1990s. However, since I got involved in the ATC again in 2013 the only crest I've seen in use has had a brown bird. What colour should the bird be officially? TeWaitere ( talk) 05:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
This article states compulsory military training was abolished in 1958 but that doesn't seem to agree with Compulsory military training in New Zealand. Would be great if someone could clarify what is accurate and make the articles consistent. -- Mgp28 ( talk) 19:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
The uniform section states that all uniform is issued by the Royal New Zealand Air Force, then later on that it comes from Headquarters New Zealand Cadet Forces. I suspect the latter is true but neither sentence is referenced. Would someone be able to clarify and add a reference for the correct statement? Cheers Mgp28 ( talk) 23:33, 21 March 2023 (UTC)