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The banks of the river are covered mainly by deciduous trees that extend into halfway between Bugaria and Greece where it forms the today's boundary with
Macedonia (Greece) and
Thrace as well as the
Kavala and the
Xanthi prefectures.
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the river is particularly famous or most commonly mentioned under this name. According to (english language) google hits:
"Mesta river": 12,500,
"Nestos river": 22,800 hits.
According to the present article the Bulgarian part is 126 km lenght while the river is of 230 km lenght. Moreover, according to this source: [
[1]]: The river flows some 230 km through Bulgarian and Greek territory before emptying into the Aegean Sea. About 126 km of the river flow through Bulgaria (2,770 km² catchment) and about 130 km through Greece (2,843 km² catchment). (it's almost equally shared by these countries).
I agree that according to the guidelines by
WP:Rivers the page should be moved though I find it rather hypocritical that it has been raised by Alexikoua and supported by Megistias after their edit warring on
Vjosë where both of them completely ignored point two and three.
I'm sorry, I noticed an edit by you and thought it was connected with the dispute. In this case, I have no real objections to the move.
Of course, Mesta should remain the preferred name in articles which are Bulgarian-related, just like it is now with Nestos in Greek-related articles.
Kostja (
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19:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)reply
The river's section in Bulgaria is slightly longer than its section in Greece (126-104), but Google apparently has a slight preference for the Greek name. Britannica calls the river
Nestos. IMO the case for moving is not very strong, but I'm OK with it.
MarkussepTalk13:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)reply
There seems to be some discrepancy in the figures for the length of the Bulgarian and Greek parts of the river?
Along with the Google hit statistics for 'Mesta River' and 'Nestos River', the combined name forms using both 'Mesta' and 'Nestos' also seem to indicate a certain preference, namely the order in which the two names are placed:
"mesta nestos river" (spellings Mesta-Nestos River, Mesta/Nestos River, Mesta (Nestos) River etc.) – 9,060 hits;
"nestos mesta river" (spellings Nestos-Mesta River, Nestos/Mesta River, Nestos (Mesta) River etc.) – 99 hits.
Yes, Xanthi is barely 10 km from Mesta/Nestos River yet not situated in its basin; the city river (Kosynthos) flows not into Mesta/Nestos but into Vistonis Lagoon. (By the way, how come that lake has no article in English Wiki?)
Apcbg (
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17:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)reply
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