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This article needs to be completely re-written. No links, no mention of any add-ons and some of the stuff isn't true. I'll try do it when I get a chance. --
Bears5404:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)reply
Yeah, the "In the Playstation version damage is a bit different other wise the same in some areas from its PC counterpart like its PC counterpart damage can also be toggled on or off." statement is uber! Very poor grammar and lotta mistakes... Correcting...
Echad18:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Yeah, rewritten alot... Some funny grammar errors included: the cillvian driver, autmatically, is a bit different other wise the same in some areas from its PC counterpart like its PC counterpart, Hot Pursuit's Hot Pursuit mode, out raced a, the player version of the cop driver wears a American police uniform when driving any police car (does he drive a not police car?), expect (it meant except), etc. The article still needs work...
Echad21:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)reply
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Modding Scene Rewrite
It might be a good idea to add in a real section about the modding community for this game...
If no one wants to write it I will because I am a good writer and this is my favorite video game of all time! :) —Preceding
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24.15.78.252 (
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02:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)reply
There's little information within the article that explains that this game is basically a tweaked version of NFS: Hot Pursuit. All of the tracks and most of the cars that appeared previously are here as well.
Kschang77 (
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21:14, 14 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Gameplay section
Now that there's an actual gameplay section describing the different game modes,
these recent additions don't really have a place in the article; They're not in like with
WP:VG/GL's section naming guidelines, i.e sticking to using sections like "Plot, "Gameplay", "Reception" etc. That is to say the "notable changes" section sticks out like a sore thumb, but a bigger problem is that there's no indication as to how or why any of this is notable. Again, as an uninitiated reader, I cannot glance anything useful from it. It's also written in the wrong tense -- It's using past tense, but this is discouraged unless a game has become unavailable, for example an MMO that has since shut down. It's also putting undue weight on a slew of small details. This makes sense within the context of the review, but ratching up every one of them from the article on an encyclopedic article does not really make sense. The biggest value is the gamespot article that is cited, but I feel this would be put to better use in a more generalized way as part of the Reception section as opposed to having all its contents paraphrased in a separate, non-standard category.
Eik Corell (
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17:54, 19 March 2019 (UTC)reply
The play station and PC version changes need a separate mention beacuse the article described the game in the way that "It is based on Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit" and nothing else while in reality, it wasn't the case. It was only the PC version which was based on the old instalment. Which is why it was necessary to mention that the play station version recieved major changes. It was also necessary to mention that because people think that it is Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit with add ons while this isn't the case either. Past tense was used because this game is almost 20 years old. It was used to describe it as such.
U1quattroTALK02:55, 20 March 2019 (UTC)reply
This lands us back at
WP:V then - We're basing an entire category of the article on one source, the Gamespot article, and the amount of info we're deriving from it cosntitutes
indiscriminate info in my opinion -- The article now has a proper gameplay section, so all these comparatives are not useful anymore. As you said, the article used to be more or less "It is based on Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit", but this is no longer the case, so this list of comparatives is even less useful now. Though articles can of course contain comparative info, they're supposed to do so in a concise, limited manner and where possible incorporate relevant details concisely into the gameplay section. This is doing none of these; subordinating this info to the development section only partially addresses the naming problem because the development section is just being used as a placeholder section for this arguably problematic info. And we're still running afoul of other problems: Being entirely based on one source is the biggest one, indiscriminately dumping all the points made into the article. Thinking about this specific point, it seems like we're straying out of the more general nature the IINFO guideline I mentioned and into its more relevant video game version:
WP:GAMECRUFT. As I hinted at, while we rely on sources, we shouldn't just parrot what the sources say as a lot of what they mention is a lot different than what Wikipedia's guidelines permit. Other than that, both the source and articles not actually saying how or why these things are notable is another problem. Lastly, as said, there is enough info in the gameplay section now to not have to rely on comparatives anymore, so all of the above could even be considered irrelevant. The best thing to do in my opinion would be to rewrite this info to general information. Instead of saying that the game now features X compared to Y of the last game, simply state that it features X. This is the way to make these additions relevant for the average reader, and would solve most of the problems I think.
Eik Corell (
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12:32, 20 March 2019 (UTC)reply
The other sources mentioned later in the article state the same info but you are correct. As you have now modified it, it seems less relevant. You can merge the information in a generalized way as you had said.
U1quattroTALK07:30, 21 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Some small prose notes that can be fixed, including some misspellings that need to be addressed.
In the beginning of the gameplay section, I'd change "must drive exotic cars" to "drive exotic cars". The 'must' is unnecessary there and should be cut. Further, is "race" a better word to use here instead of "drive", or would it be too specific in this case?
I agree that 'must' is unnecessary. I also replaced 'drive' with 'race', though I don't really have a preference.
It says "races races" -- should cut out one of them.
Fixed
I found the "Pursuits have the ability..." sentence to be a bit confusing. Is that "police pursuits have the ability"?
That's correct. I added the word 'police' to avoid any confusion.
"Tier" shouldn't be capitalized, not a formal title.
Fixed
Should be "an online multiplayer mode" instead of "a".
Fixed
In the development section, "Feaures" should be "Features"
Fixed
"Occured" should be "Occurred".
Fixed
"criticised" should be "criticized" in the reception section (although honestly this may be a UK spelling thing, in which case keep it)
Fixed. It is UK spelling, but the game is American, so 'criticized' is correct in this article's context.
"disadvanatge" should be "disadvantage"
Fixed
"longetivity" should be "longevity"
Fixed
I think you can cut down this sentence a bit. Instead of "is in native tongue, which varies depending on where a race takes place", which sounds a bit awkward, I'd say, "remarked that the language of the police chatter is in the native tongue of wherever the race is taking place." I think the original version here makes it sounds like native tongue is the language.
Replaced with "remarked that the language of the police chatter is in the native tongue of the race location", which is a bit simpler.
I think you could cut out the "where multiple cops can chase players at the same time" in the reception section -- you defined this type of race in detail in the gameplay section.
Removed. I also replaced 'however' with 'but' now that the sentence is shorter.
No copyvios detected and extremely detailed sourcing here. Copyvio checker only saw quotes as being flagged, so good to go. Spot check of sources passes muster.
Thank you for your review, really appreciated. I think I have addressed all the issues you have raised and also made some minor copy-edits. Please let me know if you find any other issues. Regards --
Niwi3 (
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12:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)reply