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This article seems to be about "Naval Gunfire" in general. It would be better placed under that heading.-- Counsel 22:48, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I do not know if this is the right place for the information, but I have been working on a naval gunfire support section for some time now, and need a place for the info. This is largly US oriented, salvaged from the Zumwalt class destroyer page, but the information is valid and this article seems apropriete for it. Thoughts on the matter? TomStar81 08:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA469741&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.74.37.16 ( talk) 22:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Wikipedians, I've been following-up an interesting series of discussions related (broadly) to the meaning of "
Artillery" and related concepts (Field Artillery, Naval Artillery, Ordnance, adequate "Artillery Lists", etc); and in one of those threads I've arrived to this (really interesting, IMHO) article.
Please let me know if I'm wrong, but seems that the concept of "Naval gunfire support" as described in this wikiarticle is limited to the US Military doctrine (more specifically, that of the
USMC). If so, it might be worth make a relevant comment at the beginning of the article, at least until further collaboration ensures that a similar concept is embraced by the (naval?) forces of other countries.
Please let me know if you agree/disagree (and why in this case) with my proposal, to proceed with it if appropriate. Thanks & Kind regards,
DPdH (
talk)
08:36, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've just added the unreferenced tag, as no citations related to the bibliography or other sources were found within the text, to help improve the Verifiability of this article (which I believe is quite good!).
Kind regards,
DPdH (
talk)
00:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Is NGFS identical to "Naval Surface Fire Support", or is it a different concept somehow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.1.22.149 ( talk) 00:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was {{{1}}} Skomorokh 10:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Naval gunfire support → Naval Surface Fire Support — Current term in use. Hcobb ( talk) 14:27, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
When I tried to go to a "Shore bombardment" article, I was redirected to this article on NGFS, which is 1) a U.S. concept, 2) a modern term not used for most of history, and 3) only a subset of shore bombardment. Much shore bombardment in history had nothing to do with supporting ground forces ashore (as NGFS is defined and as its title implies), but rather with punitive attacks to punish other countries or with destroying targets at locations in which no use of friendly forces is underway or even planned. Royal Navy shore bombardment in the 19th century was not NGFS; the Japanese bombardments of Guadalcanal was not either, and neither was the Tirpitz sortie against Spitsbergen, etc., etc. By redirecting "Shore bombardment" to NGFS, we are painting Wikipedia into a corner by redirecting a more general topic (the history and practice of shore bombardment) to a more narrow one (modern U.S. doctrine for using naval gunfire to support forces ashore). The fix would be to make "Shore bombardment" the main article, and have it discuss shore bombardment around the world and throughout history, and then have either an NGFS subsection within that article or a "main article" tag allowing readers to navigate directly to a narrower but more detailed "NGFS" article (i.e., this article) dicussing modern U.S. naval doctrine for providing fire support to forces ashore. I am thinking of expanding this article to cover more countries and more of history, but that will be awkward at best (and misleading) if we use "NGFS" as the main article on the topic. Mdnavman ( talk) 13:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)mdnavman
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