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This article contains a translation of Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos from es.wikipedia. ( 428789987 et seq.) |
It will be best to converge first towards a readable, correct, well-organized and relatively brief version. Then, taking that version as our basis, we can add information we agree is relevant, and make edits - discussing controversial edits in the talk page, of course. I do not think a detailed discussion of every edit is in order when the thing being edited is essentially a poor translation of admissions documents done by one person, as opposed to the result of community consensus. PS - thanks to HappyApple for starting the page. Hasdrubal 19:05, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Glad to help, and I would make some changes on the page soon. Messhermit 21:02, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Folks, I've unblocked HappyApple and protected this page so you can discuss and iron it out here. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 01:59, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Lets work for San Marcos, please? the oldest University of South America doesn't deserve this stub. Messhermit 02:32, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
A clean and brief page is better than a long and confusing one, full of irrelevant details written in poor English. I don't have anything against the disposition of the bushes in the Parque Universitario, myself; still, most readers wouldn't think it very relevant. If this page ever becomes much richer than it is now, some details that are now irrelevant will become somewhat less irrelevant, relatively speaking. As it is - we should start by adding material that matters (if we add anything at all).
There have been many POV claims coming from HappyApple in the last few days regarding this page. I find them absurd; what POV, exactly, are all the others supposed to be imposing? I think HappyApple is simply upset at seeing his prose messed with; a natural reaction, but an inappropriate one in Wikipedia. Hasdrubal 19:53, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
My main point is that the process of going from a first draft to an agreed-upon first stable version may involve deletions. Hasdrubal 22:53, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Once the page gets unprotected, the following two changes will have to be made:
"Parque Universitario" does not refer, strictly speaking, to La Casona, but to the park it faces (and partially surrounds). It is strongly associated in the collective mind with La Casona, but I haven't heard it being used as a metonym in quite the same way that, say, "Harvard Yard" is used to refer to part of Harvard's campus (mutatis mutandi).
The last sentence in the same section does not make that much sense as its stands. The meaning should be: when UNMSM was in La Casona, San Fernando was also downtown, but elsewhere; when the rest of UNMSM moved to the Ciudad Universitaria, San Fernando stayed put where it was (if I am not very mistaken).
Please, somebody, take care of editing the above as soon as it becomes actually possible - I'll have to focus completely on work this week. Hasdrubal 17:22, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Again, people of good heart - please take care of the following two edits. I would do them myself, but the page is protected right now.
- The Ciudad Universitaria is not in the outskirts (notice the sp. mistake in the page!) of metropolitan Lima, but, rather, in the outskirts of "Lima proper" (district of Lima). It is still near the geographical centre of Lima - the district of Lima is a small subset of metropolitan Lima. The wording should be changed to avoid giving a false impression. (La Agraria, for example, is in what most people would call the outskirts of Lima - namely, La Molina.)
- The University was not founded in response to a decree from above; rather (if I am not mistaken), the local clergy sent a petition to the king for official status (and funding, presumably). Here, again, we might give a little less detail in order to avoid being mistaken. Hasdrubal 18:03, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The entire second paragraph of the "History" section is written in poor English. That should be fixed. Also - the "Convent of Del Rosario" should be "Convento del Rosario"; it is redundant and ugly to have "of" and "Del" following each other ("Convent of of the Rosary"). Hasdrubal 18:17, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've unprotected the article. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 00:07, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Do I understand from a recent edit that "Law" and "Jurisprudence" are two different departments? Really? What are these respectively called in Spanish as departments at this university? I would expect a "facultad de Jurisprudencia" to be precisely a faculty of law. -- Jmabel | Talk July 3, 2005 23:32 (UTC)
I would like to add one more comment to user:Graña 'n' Montero's; this article has a lot of details that should be deleted (not even the Harvard article has so many intricate details). 2001:1388:1640:2D5:189C:FAB9:9685:628D ( talk) 00:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)