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Shouldn't Nathan Drake's appearances be in chronological order? If not, how does that explain Drake's Fortune, Eye of Indra, Among Thieves? LosHavros ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC).
On the "The Uncharted 2 Game of the Year Edition" episode of G4TV's Feedback (
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/701417/Feedback----The-Uncharted-2-Game-of-the-Year-Edition.html), one of the things they talked about went:
G4TV Guy: "It makes me feel like I can relate to them, even though I'm not some 27 year old explorer who can just jump around in a bunch of dangerous caves."
Amy Hennig: "Oh come on, he's in his mid-thirties."
Should this new info on his age be added to the article in some way? I'd like to see it added, but I'm not really sure where it would go.
Lars Holm (
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09:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I found the concept art too similar to the in-game image used to identify the character. The overuse of two images to show practically the same character twice would not satisy WP:NFCC. As such, I was bold and removed it. In place, I added verifiable "free" images of Johnny Knoxville (the basis for Drake's looks), and Sir Francis Drake (the "ancestor" and a plot device for the game). [1] Note that while Commons have portraits of Drake, they are typically in the same style, lacking the "adventurer spirit" (and most do not have the necessary information for verification). Jappalang ( talk) 23:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
This article isn't one. Currently, searching Nathan Drake takes you to...well, Nathan Drake (not this article, it's about a 19th century English poet/physician guy). This article ( Nathan Drake (character)) has a helluva lot more page views than the other. In accordance with WP:Primary topic, I'm proposing this article be renamed to "Nathan Drake", as a primary topic, and the other moved to "Nathan Drake (physician)" (or whatever suffix people can agree on). Any suggestions, comments, disagreements, supports or oppositions? Lord Spongefrog, (I am Czar of all Russias!) 14:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
But does that need to be mentioned THREE times on his Wikipedia page?
(Also, nowhere on the page does it quite describe his...Job.) 86.25.124.54 ( talk) 05:20, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Sure, Johnny Knoxville and characters like Indiana Jones are good examples, but I'm sure many will agree that Nathan Fillion's character on Firefly is a much better example, as it covers looks, demeanor, mannerisms, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.231.83 ( talk) 05:18, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I agree. That sentence is just laughable. I don't know if ND is trying to avoid a controversy like the one with The Last of Us and Ellen Page, but Nathan is essentially Nathan Fillion in game form. They even have the same name!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.168.207.237 ( talk) 13:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I noticed this page in the list of "articles needing copy editing." Is there anything specifically I can work on? I was reading through the article looking for grammatical errors, but everything looks solid and well sourced. I appreciate any feedback, just looking for something to help on because I absolutely love this series! Nazrok ( talk) 22:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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There are two sources cited in this article that compare Nathan Drake to the rapper Drake: an article from Yahoo, which briefly and jokingly mentions that they share the same name (in a throwaway sentence at the end of the article); and an arguably humorous tweet from PlayStation UK, featuring an image of the treasure hunter with the rapper in the background (I should note that the previous source used for this was a Twinfinite article, but since Twinfinite is not considered a reliable source, this is not much better). These are certainly not comparisons between the character and the rapper, and only one could be considered a slight reference (a more suitable word would be allusion) at best. I don't think they warrant inclusion in the article. – Rhain ☔ 06:13, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved. Sceptre ( talk) 13:19, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Nathan Drake (character) →
Nathan Drake (Uncharted) – Per
WP:NCVG#Disambiguation guidelines, it should be disambiguated with the name of the game that he features in.
ZXCVBNM (
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10:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello there,
The article as of right now is really good and all the information that has been put are accurate and have no complaints because all those have had edited this article in the past also share a deep interest in the games. Something I think the article would benefit from is if there is an added section about Nathan Drake's relationships over the course of the games because he has met and worked with many characters as well as fighting many villains. Some of these characters he has worked with has reappeared in sequels (Sully, Chloe, Elena). Then there are characters like Sam who only appears in one game but has a lot of importance to Nate so to include a section toward relationships would be beneficial to the article and allow the reader to know more about the character. Just a thought though and feel free to reply and give your thoughts about it. Thanks for reading :) LDMisEditing ( talk) 02:07, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
@
Rhain: here's some quotes from a couple of the articles I read, In a recent discussion with The Verge, Naughty Dog veteran Josh Scherr revealed that Johnny Knoxville was used as the basis for Nathan Drake during the game's original pitch, when Uncharted went under the moniker of Project Big. In Naughty Dog's pitch video, Nathan Drake is less of the heroic character seen in the final version, and instead has more of a comedic slant. Eventually, the developer would take on a "traditionally handsome" approach for the lead, with Nathan Drake's final character cemented in place by Nolan North's voice acting.
[2] And, Though Knoxville served as the primary inspiration for Drake's character initially, the team quickly turned away from the more comedic approach after finding Nolan North, the voice actor that eventually lent his likeness to the games.
[3]
I think it's still worth having a sentence or two about Knoxville, but I'll leave that up to folks more experienced with gaming articles. – 2. O. Boxing 07:19, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
@ Rhain: @ Kung Fu Man: In order to prevent an edit war (serious Rhain with two editors undoing your edits, doing three reverts isn't a good look), we'll discuss it here. The argument you present is of no real value to the average reader, and the point of the infobox is to give the stuff that a person might want to know at first glance. As someone with little knowledge of Uncharted, all the stuff you mentioned meant nothing to me. I'm sure it means a lot to Uncharted fans, though. And looking at the article, I don't get the impression that it is an important maiden name, only mentioned once in passing. As far as the nickname goes, I'd argue that there is a threshold of obviousness. For example, we don't list the fact that he's male in the infobox, even though it's obvious, because we have a specific guideline that tells you not to do so unless there's reason to believe that the average person may not realize what the character's gender is. I contend that there is equally a threshold when it comes to listing the most common nickname for Nathan on the planet in the infobox. I also think it's weird to mention that the nickname is frequently used. Why does the article interchange between Nate and Drake anyway? One of those should be chosen, and, again, pulling the outsider card, Nate is one name I know him by least (excluding Morgan). - Cukie Gherkin ( talk) 09:23, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre ( talk) 13:15, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
– In 2020, I am not quite sure why I didn't simply propose this article be moved to the primary topic. It is unquestionably so, with pageviews for the historical Drakes being almost nothing in comparison. Despite being a fictional character, he is what almost everyone searching for "Nathan Drake" is looking for in the modern day. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 15:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)