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Nice work. I just removed the manual px values for the images as it overrides user thumbnail preferences. - Phorque ( talk · contribs) 21:35, 08 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm kind of a new user to Wikipedia, so maybe this is something I don't understand fully yet - but it seems like external reference links in the Natalie Portman article keep getting turned into weird anchor links that don't point to anything (#_note-gael). What's the purpose of this? Is it an editing mistake, or is it intentional?
Kevinmooney 21:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Is she a US citizen? -- Zoe
-- I also think that she refused to serve her duty in the Israeli army. I'm not sure what that means in regards to her citizenship 66.173.192.96 04:33, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I think her mother is American so she would have dual citizenship through that route
For what it's worth, I think Portman's real name is no longer "secret" in the sense she doesn't want people to find out. Given that she's graduated from Harvard and everyone there knew it's no longer something that should be protected. Stars use fake names at hotels, and keep where they live very much secret, so it's not really a big deal we post her name... she's an adult now. MShonle 00:11, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I note the removal by User:Anthony DiPierro of the admittedly poor Sesame Street image from the article; could we perhaps find a replacement for it? I'd rather see it stay until we got one, personally. Everyking 18:42, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Some anon is adding some anti-Natalie POV at the moment. He uses the word "bladal". What is that supposed to mean? Chameleon 21:56, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
There is a picture of the Star Wars Queen's decoy in this article. I believe that, in fact, this role was played by Keira Knightley (source: IMDB.com). Can somebody confirm or deny this? 69.198.152.124 03:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC) Ryan
Yeah, it certainly seemed like Keira did more work than i had expected, but i think the general rule was when the queen was indoors she was there as herself. when she was outdoors or ona spaceship she was concealed. Amo 21:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Can we find a different photo of Natalie Portman, now that the election is over? I'm sure we can dig one up on the internet somewhere. -- Xinoph 02:17, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
Speaking of photo's, do we really need that link to the honeyjew.co.uk site? It doesn't have a big selection of images, and the two with her in a shear top are clearly fakes. There are other sites with much better collections of real pictures. ~ amRadioHed 05:23, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
We should replace the link to the topless photo - many people looking up NP would love to see her topless. The Recycling Troll 23:07, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
But not topless - we should maintain this usefull, important link! The Recycling Troll 19:00, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
No, it's a crappy pic. Chamaeleon 18:13, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
my attempt at including mention of Natalie Portman's slashdot troll phonomenon in this article was neither vandalism nor point of view, I'd appreciate it if it wasn't labelled as such and removed without provocation. I won't reverse the deletion, just ask that someone else attempt to augment this article with the facts I provided - namely, the " Naked and Petrified Natalie Portman" meme proliferates within internets afterword 03:14, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
It does belong, it's a notable troll, with its own article. Yiddish 17:00, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
i put the link to naked and petrified back in - this is where a lot of internet users first came across her and is a major slashdot troll
Agreed. Skoobes 22:13, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Is her last name Hershlag for sure? In the Hebrew version of this article it says her last name is Har-Sheleg (הר-שלג). The Hebrew version makes more sence, because Har-Sheleg means Snow-Mountain, while Hershlag has no meaning that I know of.
Since I'm not sure - I won't change it. But if someone knows anything about this, please change it or correct me in this discussion.
We have some info on Natalie's relationships. I think it's important to have references for these, because it is just the sort of thing that the press is likely to invent and we are likely to repeat uncritically. Chamaeleon 11:55, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Agreed, and if needed I can add links to help verify the info below, although admittedlt most of the "evidence" is gossip and paparazzi photos. There are too many false, misquoted, out of context claims out there. In fact, somebody has posted untrue information again on her relationships, from an old tabloid or something, which I edited. Natalie has never been romantically linked to Javier Bardem or Devon Sheffield, and both Adame Levine and Moby have admitted in interviews that they were not involved romantically with her. Javier Bardem is Natalie's co-star in Goya's Ghosts and a friend of Gael Garcia Bernal, whom Natalie knows/dated. Adam Levine is friends with Jake Gyllenhaal, whom Natalie knows/dated. Factual data 18:03, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
WHy was the link to her academic paper removed?-- Azathar 04:21, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
but where is it?
Not sure if this is relevant, but I found that devon guy someone was talkin about. He's on myspace.com and it appears that natalie is listed as his friend. So I guess they really are only friends.
I suggest all so called fan sites where you have to be a registered member to view pictures etc, should be deleted. Bronks November 13, 2005.
While interesting, the lengthy discussion above does not belong here, and has used up the space. See directions on "article size" linked above. I suggest deleting the passages or adding them to the Jerusalem page. 67.129.74.10 07:53, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
I added a link to Portman's Nov 2004 "apology letter" to Allure magazine. [1] I changed the name of a fan site link to "AQMB Natalie Portman Forum" as it was listed incorrectly. [2] 67.129.74.10 08:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Corrected some of yesterdays entries, added links, new info on almost every section. Removed that Eco challenge statement after not finding her listed on Hayden's team on the official reports. I think that's it for a while. I wasn't logged in yesterday, but I am the same fact-checker as IP67.129.74.10 above. Factual data 09:11, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
"Portman is reportedly between 5'1" and 5'3" tall, a size which she often credits with helping her blend into the crowd." Could someone convert that to centimeters too?
Okay, thanks. I'll add it to the article. Bronsk 10 december 2005.
See discussion above regarding her "boyfriends." Please stop adding incorrect information that is found in tabloids, or "copy and pasted" from online. One can uncover who her friends are and speculate about who she is dating by searching the image galleries on fansites, and matching those up with reported sightings or the people she mentions in interviews. No need to make names up or repeat gossip already proven to be false.
I move to leave off this kind of personal information, as too many people be tempted to add whatever they can dig up. However, if this section on "relationships" remains, I think the statement and quote about her not being opposed to a relationship with a woman, should go under "relationships" rather than tagged on to the end of "beliefs." Factual data 18:29, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Personally, I feel that there should be a "relationship" section. I mean, this is a page dedicated to everything Natalie. I do agree with the previous comment about providing acurate sources for people thas she is linked with. I read a magazine that actually had Moby confirming a brief relationship with Natalie a long time ago. We all know about Gael of course. and more recently, there has been a bunch of smaller articles that link her with the Devon Sheffield guy. But i've done some research, and apparently he's been mentioned several times on both natalieportman.com and AQMB. From what I can tell, he lives in Houston, Texas. I also read an article how she was in Houston recently visiting him. There are pictures as well about this since it was on Halloween. I'll see if I can provide the link to this. -- User:Jessyzah 2:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I have also heard of her dating this devin guy. I did a search and came up with this, which seems pretty interesting. http://gridskipper.com/travel/san-francisco/intranational-gawker-stalker-piano-man-nat-chik-louisville-jim-138537.php His name isnt mentioned in this particular article however it's a pretty funny story of her in Houston. I remember reading somethin about this dude from one of the moderators over at natalieportman.com last year. -- Angie1981 08:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I could find no recent smaller articles linking Natalie to actually dating Devon Sheffield, no matter how it is spelled. I did hours of searching online, I searched with AQMB and np.com, and even contacted the mods. DS was mentioned once on messageboards (and in relation to that several times in 2002 and onward), and in the end, the mods felt the mention was more of a hoax than the truth. DS may indeed be her producer friend in Houston (which seems plausible), and if you have information of that, please verify and provide the source. But I could find no listing for a web developer / well-known producer under this name in Texas. If you know him, tell him to update his website or something, because he does not come up on searches. For now there is no real evidence to list this guy as a boyfriend.
Regarding Moby, he had long claimed a romantic link with Portman in several interviews, which she always said was untrue (not reliable because she denies all romances). However, Moby has made conflicting statements: that they were never romantic, and that they dated a few times. Moby and Natalie have indeed been friends for several years. Moby said this in the June 2002 Blender interview:
Adam Levine first claimed a relationship with Portman, then said they hardly knew each other. As mentioned above in the other "Boyfriends" section, Adam is a longtime friend of Jake Gyllenhaal, who Natalie was romantically linked to from beginning through August 2002. The June 23 2002 edition of the Boston Globe had a blurb on them being a clandestine couple based on their hotel-travel arrangements at the Nantucket Film Fest, but it's no longer on line.
As mentioned earlier, in 2005 Natalie dated Liron Levo from the beginning of the year through the summer. She referred to him as her boyfriend, in an incident in Ecuador, where somebody asked if Anakin from Star Wars was her boyfriend. She pointed to her companion Liron and said, "No, he is my boyfriend." Quote found in this story in Cosas, (see rough translation linked in article).
Most recently (October, November, December 2005) Natalie has been allegedly seen in Spain and London with old flame Gael Garcia Bernal. The sources are Spanish blogs and UK and Spanish gossip tabloids, but a more reliable source is the Spanish edition of Glamour (December). In the intro to the interview with cover girl Portman, the writer says that she saw Portman and Bernal, along with her co-star Javier Bardem and Elena Anaya, at Pub Barbu in Madrid at 3am. Factual data 16:25, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I've saw that article [3] although in French but seems she is back with Gael Bernal. Someone can comfirm it on an English source?-- 74.56.237.202 01:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I added content, mainly confirmation from Dustin Hoffman from Elle magazine, December 2006: Hoffman said Natalie was dating Gael when they worked together in Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium. Gael was seen in Toronto with her at the time. Factual data 22:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Updated with current schedule. Removed quote box requesting references or sources; this request was referring to earlier information posted there with somebody claiming to be a boyfriend. It was mistakenly left up after the incorrect info was removed. Factual data 03:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I've saw that article [4] although in French but seems she is back with Gael Bernal. Someone can comfirm it on an English source?-- 74.56.237.202 01:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Une question: was it summa (unlikely), magna (probably) or just good old Tommy Lee Jones cum? ZephyrAnycon 04:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I've looked it up before. Some years in some subjects no one, and this is no one out of a year of Harvard undergraduates, graduates summa cum laude. It really is exceptional. Graduating with 'some form of honors', however, is obviously not unusual for such students. -ZA
PS I know someone with exactly that SAT score and she doesn't strike me as being freakishly, 'ridiculously' intelligent and talented, just clever and capable.
"Portman has held a 4.0 GPA throughout her high school and college academic career." Source? Good on her if that's true, though.
Reply to the "SAT score" statemens; I remember back in 1999 an official website said her SAT score was 1400, not 1580. Besides, you can get close to a perfect score on the SAT if you study you ass off in Math and literature. Want to score high on the verbal section? Read a lot! Want to score high on the math section? Do at least 50 or 60 math problems a day throughout your school career. Intelligence, given the complex nature of the brain, is something that comes to a person whether or not they are in the right environment and have faith in themselves. People, the brain has 100 billion neurons, and children learn things quickly. Bombard a child early with complicated things, and their intelligence is bount to increase. It is not something that is "natural" for the most part.
So what is my gripe with standardized testing? Its like this; when I took the ACT, I got "borderline retarded." When I took a GRE diagnostic, I got "borderline genius." I stopped studying again, and when I took the GRE diagnostic again, I got "borderline retarded" again. Its all in motivation, not natural ability. Besides, everyone knows that "natrual ability" belief is ultimately the source of all racism when you think about it. Later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.63.78.25 ( talk • contribs) 13:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC).
I removed all of that as no references were provided for any of the quotes. I don't know how the image can be considered fair use either? It was cited that the autor allows anyone to hold it for any purpose, yet the author is left unknown and no reference or evidence was provided. It's well known (even stated in the paragraph) that it was taken by the paparazzi, so Im assuming it is indeed copyright. How is it that controversial anyway? Her saying that she doesnt like doing nude scenes and than tanning on a beach is hardly controversy...please feel free to discuss if you disagree though. Forever young 17:18, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Bronks 15 January 2006
I removed the image because it is not Public Domain until you can prove it. I bet that photographer went to a good bit of effort for that photo and just because porno sites host it does not mean its in the Public Doman.
I removed the section because:
Forever young 23:11, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
The new paragraph at the beginning of the article should not have been added. It paraphrases information that is already in the article. If the editor wants to add some of their information to the existing text, that seems okay, but to add an entire new section that merely repeats what is below is not necessary. Anybody else agree with deleting it? Please do so, or I will do it soon. Factual data 04:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Also, it's too bad that some of the content has been changed recently to make natiwiki sound like the generic Portman bio copied and pasted all over the web, with the same old Natalie quotes that are so often repeated. "I'd rather be smart than be a movie star"? is repeated so often, eventhough she said it some ten years ago. She's had more recent thoughts on the subject since then. Please include a recent college quote. The new article has really lost a lot of the unique zing it had, but that can be remedied here and there. There is some repeated information that needs to be removed, and she was never nominated for a Tony award.
We'll have to work together rather than against one another to make this an interesting to read biography and Natalie Portman reference. Factual data 05:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
It looks as if the Harvard Crimson article mentioned above ( http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=205143) has been since edited in the archives by the Crimson staff to reflect the star's stage name, yet it was originally signed with her family name. Any takers?
For a biographical article, we don't need all these images. I think we can get rid of all but two: the main picture (for identification purposes) and the picture of her in Leon (to represent her child acting days). Thoughts? -- MisterHand 01:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I think the article violates policy stated in WP:FAIR, namely: "Do not use multiple images or media clips if one will serve the purpose adequately." -- MisterHand 13:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
well they filmed in 1997, and i think her casting may even have been announed as early as 1996. Can anyone find a source? Amo 20:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
anyone have a source cos i have never heard that middle name mentioned? Even on sites that attempt to deconstruct and analyse her name... Amo 20:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Nat does not have a middle name that is known to the public. Its either Natalie Portman or Natalie Hershlag
Either way she is most beatiful woman in the world!
I'm not sure what this means... is it that she turned down roles because she felt those roles were too sexualized? Thanks. -- Allen 22:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
"I don't think there needs to be a film about a thirteen year old girl having, um, intercourse with a fifty year old man," she states. (Good Morning America 2/1996) and "after reading the script Natalie refused the part of Ann. "In the original script there was a sex scene, and I want to emphasize that I don't have any problems with sex scenes on film," Portman said. "I'm not into censorship, but I just wasn't prepared to do the scene at that point in my life." After a script edit: "I think the scene gets across the same message without having to be explicit and without having to exploit someone who's young." (The Ottawa Citizen 10/1999) (from http://www.natalieportman.com/npcom.php?page_number=3) Amo 22:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
I find the chronology of events in this section a bit confusing: it says she started attending theatre camp at 13, then took up professional role in 1993, and "Léon opened on November 18, 1994 and marked her feature film debut at age twelve." Am I missing something?
And when did she take "Portman" as her stage name? Was it when she was "introduced to the talent scout" earlier on, or only after given the part in Léon?
Could someone be kind enough to advise? Thanks!
Tonyho 09:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Amo 13:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
I've never seen this suggested. i think it would be pretty incledible if her mum were doing this. Nastalie's huge! Amo 13:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
natalieportman.com has this: "he introduced me to modeling agents, and I told them "I don't want to model, I want to act," so they introduced me to acting agents." (The Late Show with David Letterman 11/1994). I think the fact that her mother was her agent could easily have been assumed in a pretty casual biog, like the one from tiscali. I mean, her mother was her chaperone so that could have caused confusion. Amo 22:33, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Is it time to archive this talk page? It is 54 kilobytes long right now... Cvene64 23:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I've heard from a couple of sources--this page included--that Natalie was a semi-finalist in the Intel Science Talent Search, but the STS website (www.sciserv.org/sts) seems to have no mention of her in any of their past semi-finalist lists, going back to the 1997-98 school year (I would imagine she should have entered the competition a year later, but she's in none of the lists). Can anyone confirm that she actually was an STS semi-finalist? AdamSolomon 23:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Anyone know her stance? Did she refuse to serve (as someone said up above)? Just wondering. -- Al™ 19:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
You are most welcome. The link was deleted from the article under the summary "cleanup". So for those who wonder about the source for this and other information: *(in Hebrew) A television interview with Natalie Portman in Hebrew gidonb 02:26, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
My understanding from a Parade artice (okay consider the source, but...) if she were to return to Israel she would be arrested for desertion. Don't know how true that is, especially if she were filmed at Western Wall. 152.130.8.2 17:47, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or is most of the controversy section a bunch of non-notable crap? 68.145.141.4 19:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if she is going to read this. This section violates WP:TPG "Keep on topic: Talk pages are not for general conversation. Keep discussions on the topic of how to improve the associated article. Irrelevant discussions are subject to removal." So as the guideline suggest, I have deleted the fan letter. Putting it back will be seen as violating the above guideline and maybe even as vandalism. Gdo01 21:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I hate the front image in this article, it looks so ugly and i replaced it twice with a better one from the premier of v for vendetta, the first time it was mysteriously removed from wikipedia and then the article, the second time (a couple of hours ago) it was removed from this article by Comicstanding3 saying that this is COMMONS image, you can not replace it with a fair-use one, that is a copyright violation... now, i'm not modifying the commons image, i'm just replacing it with a perfectly licensed and with a known source and tags ang everything image.. why is that wrong?? -- PASSIVE ( Talk| E-Mail) 10:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Given that the statement is "the film adaptation of Alan Moore's graphic novel, V for Vendetta", the link should clearly be to the article about "Alan Moore's graphic novel". The article specifically relating to the film is linked to more that once already. Amo 17:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
The article states Natalie is a vegan, however on her wikiquote page there is this quote: "I love milk so much! I make a point of drinking a glass of milk every day." Obviously this goes against veganism, it seems Natalie is a vegetarian as opposed to a vegan. This fan site seems to agree. I'll update the article.
Highly suggest at least add Mathilda/"Leon" role, not to say about the fact that it is even more noticeable than Amidala role. Have a look at Top 250 movies at IMDb and note that Léon_(film) (where Natalie Portman ) takes the 43-th place while the highest Star Wars with Natalie Portman takes just 245-th place. I am not adding it myself due to "Please do not add any other roles without discussion" Honeyman 23:10, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I am an admin of a Forum Dedicated to Nat.
It is www.nataliehershlag.tk
I feel with its advertisement here it will grow massivly. Why? Well there are no good forums out there for people to comment on what THEY think. Most websites just post the admins thoughts. This forum is genuinly for everyone to post their comments, thoughts and feelings about numerous topics.
Please allow me to put my Link in the External Links
Thx
Drew
I understand that...but this is not like all the others. This is a forum. A forum that will last. I have not seen anyother forums for Nat Fans that are any good.
Please rethink your position
Can you answer or do i have to continue to add the link?????
The selection of links in this article is pathetically inadequate. I have removed a viciously phrased hidden message that was unfit to be included in Wikipedia as it was incompatible with the basic anyone can edit tenet of Wikipedia. I know very little about NP, but would ask those who do to add at least half a dozen extra external links. 82.18.125.110 03:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Forums are good (www.nataliehershlag.tk) ....people can discuss the different roles and different parts of her life. They can cross examine each others ideas. It is not just simply chat about the weekend....it is quite different. On my forum it is just about her and the films, images, videos and other things that all have to do with her. Atleast put 1 forum there. Say mine seeing as there are no real good forums out there for her. She deserves better then just reading. We ought to talk about the way she conveys messages and what she is about. If we all did 2 things like Natalie Portman the whole world would be better, im not saying do everything but if we did 2 things. Just 2!(www.nataliehershlag.tk)
A forum (www.nataliehershlag.tk) allows for people to learn more by providing information about her that people normally would not find out about her or know because the admin of a website is overflowed with emails daily and doesnt deal with emails he has recieved till months later.
www.nataliehershlag.tk is a really good forum for her and only her. Not for talking about the weekend or how school is going with mates.
How bout u go to the site and realise no profit or money is being made or rounded up!! You fuking retard!!
Just a forum...not sponsored by some big ass company that wants cash or something....doesnt even ask for donations. Fuk wit
I am not the one making money...if you had a good pop up blocker like the basic ones that comes with Firefox or IE then it wouldnt come up. All you do is click on a link and you are there, no fucking about with ads you just click and start adding to the forum. Don't be a dick. Its not like im adding 20 pointless links so stop wasting your and my time be removing the link or arguing with me. You Tool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.97.172 ( talk • contribs)
Portman said, that her granfather was Polish. Polish Jew, of course. Than we can talk abiut her as a Polish Jews and a Polish-American. What do you think?
She would receive a Tony nomination for her role as Anne Frank
Anybody see a reference for this ever, I have'nt.
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