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While the article's tone appears quite professional compared to what I found in Millennium Transit Services#Models, the models listing looked like a jigsaw of dashes and parentheses. I did some cleaning up in Historical and Current subsections, just to make dash use in there consistent and user-friendly in terms of legibility.
Most of this is a good part from my own point of view and a good part from the Dash article.
Despite my own cleanups, there is still an overabundance of parentheses.
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01:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
This has been eliminated, with all models now in a table, as the Motor Coach Industries article has it, with both US and metric units given.-- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 15:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the client list from the article on the basis that it doesn't add anything to the article. It can be easily summed up as "Yeah, they've had a lot of customers." My thought is that if the client is notable in relation to the topic then fine (like the 870 frame fiasco for Flxible). Otherwise, it's not particularly notable and makes the article unnecessarily long. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 10:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Who ever said that OC Transpo owns the DE40i is wrong, I should know, I live in Ottawa. So I fixed it. 99.245.254.34 ( talk) 01:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
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although most people would rub it off, I thought I should point out that Long Beach Transit is the only operator of the GE40LFA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EditorTheInvertedFan ( talk • contribs) 05:58, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
I propose that this article be split into two pages. One page (New Flyer Industries Group) would focus on the broader company that owns both New Flyer and MCI. The other page (New Flyer Industries) would focus solely on the heavy-duty transit bus brand. They're getting too mixed together on this page. Thoughts? -- RickyCourtney ( talk) 05:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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All, couple things:
1) New Flyer Industries Inc. (the parent company of New Flyer transit buses, MCI motor coaches, ARBOC low-floor cutaway buses, and NFI Parts - visually shown here: https://www.nfigroup.com/) had its name formally changed in May 2018 to NFI Group Inc. - can we please rename the page to NFI Group Inc. to reflect that?
2) Logo: the logo shown is incorrect. NFI Group has its own logo, and further, the New Flyer transit bus logo has since been updated and the one shown is no longer used. I can provide the logo - can someone update if I do?
3) Website: FYI only - the NFI Group Inc. site ( https://www.nfigroup.com/) will be further built out and launched shortly. It will contain all corporate history, all subsidiary information, investor relations content, aggregate news/press releases (from New Flyer, MCI, ARBOC, and NFI Parts), and aggregate career postings. Much of this will move over from newflyer.com (given New Flyer represents the transit bus brand only). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcnorris ( talk • contribs) 13:13, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Lcnorris: Please provide the logo, thank you! SportsFan007 ( talk) 13:20, 16 October 2018 (UTC)SportsFan007
@ SportsFan007: Below are a couple I referenced. Note the New Flyer logo is used for New Flyer Canada ULC, and the New Flyer of America logo is used for New Flyer of America Inc. For any general references to the New Flyer transit bus business, please use only the New Flyer logo and not the New Flyer of America logo.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NF_Profile_Full.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Flyer_of_America.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NFI_Group_Inc.png
@ SportsFan007: Updates look awesome - thanks!
For starters.
Weeb Dingle (
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20:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 22:59, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
NFI Group Inc. →
NFI Group – per
WP:NCCORP policy.
Tagsfornia (
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KCVelaga (
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01:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi all,
Full transparency: I work for New Flyer.
Wanted to give a heads up on a few factual changes to NFI Group references on the page: in short, NFI Group Inc ("NFI") is now the parent company of multiple entities, including New Flyer, MCI, ARBOC, NFI Parts, and Alexander Dennis (the latter of which was acquired in May - details @ https://www.nfigroup.com/2019/05/28/nfi-group-inc-announces-acquisition-of-alexander-dennis-limited/). With the acquisition, NFI grew overnight from 6,000 people to just under 9,000 people, and from operating in 2 countries to operating in 10 (Canada, US, UK, Germany, Ireland, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Mexico, New Zealand).
The page currently references New Flyer ownership but does not mention/make clear the ownership of other subsidiaries. Can you please integrate updates into the page so it's current? Below is the statement normally found in our press release "boilerplates" (obviously do not expect this verbiage to carry over, as it's likely too corporate for the Wiki page):
About NFI
With over 8,900 team members operating from more than 50 facilities across ten countries, NFI is a leading independent global bus manufacturer providing a comprehensive suite of mass transportation solutions under brands: New Flyer® (heavy-duty transit buses), Alexander Dennis Limited (single and double-deck buses), Plaxton (motor coaches), MCI® (motor coaches), ARBOC® (low-floor cutaway and medium-duty buses), and NFI Parts™. NFI buses and motor coaches incorporate the widest range of drive systems available including: clean diesel, natural gas, diesel-electric hybrid, and zero-emission electric (trolley, battery, and fuel cell). It also supports infrastructure development through New Flyer Infrastructure Solutions™, a service dedicated to providing safe and reliable charging and mobility solutions. In total, NFI now supports over 105,000 buses and coaches currently in service around the world. For the fiscal year ended December 30, 2018, NFI posted revenues of US$2.5 billion. NFI common shares are traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol NFI. News and information are available at www.nfigroup.com, www.newflyer.com, www.mcicoach.com, www.arbocsv.com, www.alexander-dennis.com, and www.nfi.parts.
Thanks, L — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcnorris ( talk • contribs) 19:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
This article is too much of a hassle. So I propose to split this article into New Flyer Industries for buses and models and the NFI Group will remain as a corporate entity itself. -- 69.157.127.100 ( talk) 21:26, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
The page has four issues at the top, dating 2007-2017, therefore is long overdue for major demolition.
Start with the basics: sourcing. Of the 66 sources cited, 52 of them are New Flyer itself. That alone is a big yellow flag that recommends close scrutiny. (HINT: if you really feel the need to cite a company's press release — let alone almost half a gross!! — as if it were inarguable fact, then have at least the minimal decency to find a credible media outlet that felt it was worth regurgitating.)
The truly ludicrous list of obsolete products clearly needs to be gone. I used to collect U.S. postage stamps and early Walkman devices, and remain a fan of both, but I would happily delete voluminous lists from the respective articles, and strongly push to keep such data reams off Wikipedia even as List pages.
Let me state again: the NFI Group does not make buses (any more than IBM is "a computer manufacturer"). That is the work of a corporate division, therefore really doesn't belong here at all.
There are exactly three humans named: Coval, den Ousden, Marinucci. Who are presently the key people at the top? Why is this not worth mention? Where, at least, is Soubry?
There probably ought to be a Controversies section. In 2013, New Flyer got a huge contract with Los Angeles, in large part by making all sorts of promises. Per an August 2019 recounting:
But NFI weaseled away from the commitments:
A 10/24/17 Los Angeles Times op/ed says
Two years after,
a Huffington Post article explores how NFI is being confronted with similar shenanigans at their Alabama plant. (Incidentally, JMA is a coalition that includes the
Communications Workers of America, which represents labor at the Saint Cloud and Crookston plants.)
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